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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 8403820" data-attributes="member: 177">Yeah, I've played D&D before.  So, I can see a mismatch when folks say they want careful tracking of fiction in combat, while at the same time they give short shrift to the fiction setting up the combat.  What you describe is poor GM fiat fiction.The original scenario as stated by Maxperson was thirty orcs.  As if your typical thirty orcs are... stealthy?  If the answer is...1) No.  The simple, "They walk into to the room," is a failure in crafting the fictional situation.  The fighter notices the orcs before they come in, and should be able to react to their presence before the stipulated Round 1.  Any choice to stay put then becomes the basis for the fiction that he's not beating them to the door.  2) Yes.  The simple, "They walk into the room," is still a failure crafting the fiction - this is a troupe of stealth orcs, and they quickly and silently enter the room, and the fighter, while perhaps not fully surprised, is slow on the uptake.  The orcs are using the shadows and the fighter doesn't realize the gravity of his situation until they are already passing him....If we support Maxperson's argument that combat can start before anyone attacks, then the moment the fighter may have heard/seen the orcs was when we should start Round 1, not after they enter and move into position.  So he should at least have had access to a Ready action to move to the door if something above his pay grade came in the chamber.</blockquote>

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