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<blockquote data-quote="clearstream" data-source="post: 8405362" data-attributes="member: 71699">It might help to look at when decisions are being called for. Under my approach (T is for time, not turn) -T1 = DM: based on how things have unfolded, let's roll initiativeT2 = Fighter Player: rolls lower than DMT3 = DM: decides what orcs do, and resolves their turnsT4 = Fighter Player: decides what they do, based on the current game state (groans weakly, dying)T5 = Healer Player: decides what they do, based on seeing the current game state (fighter groaning weakly, dying): castsIt sounds like you might be describing -T1 = Fighter Player: decides what they want to doT1' = Healer Player: decides what they want to doT1&quot; = DM: decides what orcs will doT2 = DM: based on how things have unfolded, let's roll initiativeT3 = DM: because orcs won initiative, game state is unchanged so unproblematically resolves what they decided to doT4 = Fighter Player: what they decided to do is now at odds with the current game state: insert sound of SoD shatteringT5 = Healer Player: didn't decide to cast healing because no one needed healing back when they decided: sound of SoD shattering intensifiesCan you correct the above, which I feel sure I must have laid out wrongly?!One nettle I am grasping is captured in that word &quot;masquerade&quot;. I say that &quot;Yes, it truly is all a big masquerade!&quot; For the purposes of play, if the pretence is good enough, then it really is good enough. It matters how hard you look at it; what subjective hoops you make it jump through.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="clearstream, post: 8405362, member: 71699"] It might help to look at when decisions are being called for. Under my approach (T is for time, not turn) - T1 = [B]DM:[/B] based on how things have unfolded, let's roll initiative T2 = [B]Fighter Player:[/B] rolls lower than DM T3 = [B]DM:[/B] decides what orcs do, and resolves their turns T4 = [B]Fighter Player:[/B] decides what they do, based on the current game state (groans weakly, dying) T5 = [B]Healer Player:[/B] decides what they do, based on seeing the current game state (fighter groaning weakly, dying): casts It sounds like you might be describing - T1 = [B]Fighter Player:[/B] decides what they want to do T1' = [B]Healer Player:[/B] decides what they want to do T1" = [B]DM:[/B] decides what orcs will do T2 = [B]DM:[/B] based on how things have unfolded, let's roll initiative T3 = [B]DM:[/B] because orcs won initiative, game state is unchanged so unproblematically resolves what they decided to do T4 = [B]Fighter Player:[/B] what they decided to do is now at odds with the current game state: insert sound of SoD shattering T5 = [B]Healer Player:[/B] didn't decide to cast healing because no one needed healing back when they decided: sound of SoD shattering intensifies Can you correct the above, which I feel sure I must have laid out wrongly?! One nettle I am grasping is captured in that word "[I]masquerade[/I]". I say that "[I]Yes, it truly is all a big masquerade![/I]" For the purposes of play, if the pretence is good enough, then it [I]really is[/I] good enough. It matters how hard you look at it; what subjective hoops you make it jump through. [/QUOTE]

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