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<blockquote data-quote="Garthanos" data-source="post: 8420248" data-attributes="member: 82504">Maybe just bad criticism as the excuse for dislike (which doesn't actually need an excuse). And often it seems to be really an just an&nbsp; &quot;omg they changed it&quot; response. There are exceptions but many criticized the game while being&nbsp; utterly ignorant of it...&nbsp; and often &quot;reasons&quot; asserted where based on falsehoods too. I have defended other editions from similar bs. It just seems 4e received most of it.&quot;Hey for some people 4e combat took too long&quot; ... my response ok it didnt for me but there are more than one reason it didnt for me but might for others. (here are some tools that can help that others use)Completely bearable criticism.compare to&quot;Hey warlords shouted wounds away... like magic&quot;&nbsp; or&quot;Hey fighters in 4e do exactly the same things as wizards&quot;Be sure to not pretend your taste is something other than taste and things are fine although I suppose there are complications, like In &quot;my opinion hit point restoration is repairing of wounds in D&amp;D&quot; just doesn't float even if you couch it as an opinion.You can say I want that to be true or I would prefer it but that would be admitting it is just a taste.Nobody is shouting your limbs back on nor even scratches away either.The most hated &quot;reasoning&quot; in the history of the game used to be amnesia casters that is a taste thing too.&nbsp; &nbsp; ... and definitely doesn't happen in 5e removed entirely&nbsp;Perhaps they create a state of mental inertia only the simplest thoughts can even come to mind ie a mental binding prevents the complex thoughts emerging ...&nbsp; shrug that is how I picture it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Garthanos, post: 8420248, member: 82504"] Maybe just bad criticism as the excuse for dislike (which doesn't actually need an excuse). And often it seems to be really an just an "omg they changed it" response. There are exceptions but many criticized the game while being utterly ignorant of it... and often "reasons" asserted where based on falsehoods too. I have defended other editions from similar bs. It just seems 4e received most of it. "Hey for some people 4e combat took too long" ... my response ok it didnt for me but there are more than one reason it didnt for me but might for others. (here are some tools that can help that others use) Completely bearable criticism. compare to "Hey warlords shouted wounds away... like magic" or "Hey fighters in 4e do exactly the same things as wizards" Be sure to not pretend your taste is something other than taste and things are fine although I suppose there are complications, like In "my opinion hit point restoration is repairing of wounds in D&D" just doesn't float even if you couch it as an opinion. You can say I want that to be true or I would prefer it but that would be admitting it is just a taste. [B]Nobody is shouting your limbs back on nor even scratches away either.[/B] The most hated "reasoning" in the history of the game used to be amnesia casters that is a taste thing too. ... and definitely doesn't happen in 5e removed entirely Perhaps they create a state of mental inertia only the simplest thoughts can even come to mind ie a mental binding prevents the complex thoughts emerging ... shrug that is how I picture it. [/QUOTE]

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