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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 8265592" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>Heists aren't a great example either, because D&D is actually pretty good at heists. And BitDs core mechanic (i.e. deciding that you prepared for certain events beforehand) appeared in a D&D adventure BEFORE BitD existed (Blood Money I think, in some Dungeon from 2010). Plus BitD is more about a particular approach to heists, which again, as noted, appeared in D&D years before BitD even existed.</p><p></p><p>And if you use a different example, I think the case for using a different RPG is likely to be more persuasive.</p><p></p><p>My experience is that if you can get people to play a different RPG to D&D, and have fun, even once, you've broken the back of the notion that the familiarity of D&D is actually important, for the people who took part.</p><p></p><p>I'd also particularly suggest PtbA (inc. BitD) games and Resistance-based games are extremely effective for this, as they have very simple and accessible rules (which even non-gamers pick up quickly), and tend to be instantly fun (in fact some PtbA games get old pretty fast but are usually extremely extra fun to start with).</p><p></p><p>If the alternative however is some rules-heavy beast, though, yeah, then you have a challenge on your hands, and probably need to make quite a specific case.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 8265592, member: 18"] Heists aren't a great example either, because D&D is actually pretty good at heists. And BitDs core mechanic (i.e. deciding that you prepared for certain events beforehand) appeared in a D&D adventure BEFORE BitD existed (Blood Money I think, in some Dungeon from 2010). Plus BitD is more about a particular approach to heists, which again, as noted, appeared in D&D years before BitD even existed. And if you use a different example, I think the case for using a different RPG is likely to be more persuasive. My experience is that if you can get people to play a different RPG to D&D, and have fun, even once, you've broken the back of the notion that the familiarity of D&D is actually important, for the people who took part. I'd also particularly suggest PtbA (inc. BitD) games and Resistance-based games are extremely effective for this, as they have very simple and accessible rules (which even non-gamers pick up quickly), and tend to be instantly fun (in fact some PtbA games get old pretty fast but are usually extremely extra fun to start with). If the alternative however is some rules-heavy beast, though, yeah, then you have a challenge on your hands, and probably need to make quite a specific case. [/QUOTE]
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