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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 8265802" data-attributes="member: 87792">And here I'd say that there's a huge difference between adding to a game and morphing a game. D&D is a hacked tabletop wargame where some of its central features are:<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Almost consequence free (for the survivors) combat</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Relatively controlled outcomes that are pass/fail</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Larger than life characters able to survive most situations - but who are "street level" superheroes at most.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Linear character growth where the characters level up</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Controlled, predictable, and reliable magic</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The environment being external to the characters rather than the characters being integrated into the setting </li> </ul>If I want to keep all of the above then D&D is a pretty good starting point.  If I want to substantially change any of them it isn't.Blades in the Dark is not a great game for heists because it gives you flashback mechanics (stolen from Leverage). You could do that in D&D. It's a great game for a heist crew that are barely keeping things together, and where consequences both of each individual roll can bite in both expected and unexpected ways. And where wounds make it harder for the characters and it takes more than a few days of light activity to recover.Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay is a game where I start with a genuine position in the world whether it's ratcatcher, gravedigger, or highwayman - but their destiny isn't almost locked in at the start in the way a fighter is likely to remain a fighter through their entire career. Combat is always dangerous; you're one bad roll away from not so much death but an injury that's still affecting your character a dozen seconds later. And magic is powerful, scary, unreliable, and every spell has a chance of blowing back in your face.Getting either the Blades or WFRP experiences in D&D would require house rules that are tantamount to a complete rebuild of the system.I have literally never heard of anyone doing this. For me the idea that you can do anything in D&D rings hollow. And even 5e is a bulky enough system that I could teach Blades as easily as I could houserule 5e.</blockquote>

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