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Message: <blockquote data-quote="dave2008" data-source="post: 8266062" data-attributes="member: 83242">You could be right.  I don't really have enough experience with other systems to say.Perhaps, if that it is indeed what you want.  I have found that often we think we want something different, but when we try other systems we find what we really want is a D&D version of that genre.I disagree, but what you want from a CoC game and what we want from a CoC game may be different.  I mean Sandy has a whole 5e CoC supplement. Now it wasn't available when I ran a CoC style adventure, but the group definitely felt we captured what we liked about CoC from the 80s.FYI, correct me if I am wrong, buy CoC had hit points back in the 80s (at least that is how I remember it). I know the monsters did.</blockquote>