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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Manbearcat" data-source="post: 8268660" data-attributes="member: 6696971">What this conversation is missing (so far as I can tell) is analysis/breakdown in terms of both (i) system and (ii) the structured conversation of play) for some/all of the following:(a) What does (FP) functional play (in terms of what play feels like, what it reliably produces, how it gets there with respect to Skilled Play and the distribution of volition at the table) look like in a heist scenario and how is that achieved?(b) What does FP look like in a dungeon delve scenario and how is that achieved?(c) What does FP look like in a journey/chase scenario and how is that achieved?(d) What does FP look like in a city-building scenario and how is that achieved?(e) What does FP look like in a social conflict scenario and how is that achieved?(f) What does FP look like in a mystery/investigation scenario and how is that achieved?(g) What does FP look like in a combat scenario and how is that achieved?(h) What does FP look like in an incite a revolt/revolution scenario and how is that achieved?(i) What does FP look like in an engage a supernatural power (exorcism/summons and binding) scenario and how is that achieved?I'm sure there are others, but those are the most beefy/pervasive among TTRPGs.I haven't read the thread, just looked through some of it and its not clear to me precisely what the discussion is supposed to be about.  What can stock 5e handle?  How do you try to integrate other stuff with 5e (so it handles more stuff or handles stuff better)?  What can 5e not integrate (whether that means coherently or without it becoming fiddly or table-time/pacing punitive)?  However, if the answer to all of the above (a) - (i) is something like "it doesn't much matter because any/all systems and conversation structure will/can/should lead to roughly the same type of aspirational play", then there isn't much to have in the way of discussion about how to facilitate certain sorts of play less or more via different design/play principles and techniques deployed.</blockquote>

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