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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 8270339" data-attributes="member: 87792">I can't think of anything [USER=22779]@Hussar[/USER] has said that might lead to you asking for clarification. He said <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/d-d-compared-to-bespoke-genre-ttrpgs.679910/post-8270117" target="_blank">here</a> "What don't we have in a heist movie/story? The protagonists' plan fails five minutes into the heist because that guard rolled a decent spot check and noticed the invisible fighter clanking past in his armor."That's not at all the same as the heist not ending in failure in the end. If, five minutes into the heist, the guard notices the fighter in plate armour (plate armour being a minor wtf in Blades) then Blades gives you guidance that the situation gets worse. There are actual tools and mechanics in Blades for how much worse things get and what will commence is a plate-spinning exercise as the PCs get into a more dangerous spot and get more stressed as they start to deal with this obnoxiously alert guard.And it's possible that all these plates will come crashing to the ground and the heist ends in failure because of one obnoxiously alert guard. But the guard being obnoxiously alert at the five minute mark will only provide a complication. Dealing with the complication may bring down the heist at around the half hour mark - but it's not failed by the one single roll.Meanwhile D&D 5e being a "Rulings not rules"/"Mother may I" system provides precisely none of the tools Blades has to say what failing the stealth check means in practice - which in the context of a heist game is about as helpful as a "combat system" where you've no guidance for what happens when someone succeeds at an attack roll; you've no hit point, wound/injury, or healing mechanics at all.</blockquote>

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