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<blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 8272993" data-attributes="member: 82106"><p>My recollection is that virtually all such discussions after about 2011 started and ended with &quot;those just don't work, we don't use them, they're crap.&quot; end of report. That is there were 2 camps, those who refused to use them at all and simply dismissed the whole topic out of hand, and those who discussed how they were used. Frequently there would be a post asking for advice, usually from some infrequent/new poster, and there would be a bunch of &quot;don't bother with that!&quot; or even &quot;play Pathfinder!&quot; and then the other posts would be about how to actually play it. Now and then things would go edition war or whatever. I don't recall much in the way of &quot;SCs in principle are OK but the solution is flawed in 4e&quot; from people who rejected the concept. It was more people who LIKED them and were onboard with the arguments in favor who would say some things could be hacked or whatever. The 'Obsidian Skill Challenge System' was quite popular for a year or two around 2008-10.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="AbdulAlhazred, post: 8272993, member: 82106"] My recollection is that virtually all such discussions after about 2011 started and ended with "those just don't work, we don't use them, they're crap." end of report. That is there were 2 camps, those who refused to use them at all and simply dismissed the whole topic out of hand, and those who discussed how they were used. Frequently there would be a post asking for advice, usually from some infrequent/new poster, and there would be a bunch of "don't bother with that!" or even "play Pathfinder!" and then the other posts would be about how to actually play it. Now and then things would go edition war or whatever. I don't recall much in the way of "SCs in principle are OK but the solution is flawed in 4e" from people who rejected the concept. It was more people who LIKED them and were onboard with the arguments in favor who would say some things could be hacked or whatever. The 'Obsidian Skill Challenge System' was quite popular for a year or two around 2008-10. [/QUOTE]

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