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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 8274659" data-attributes="member: 18">Sorry, no.Strawman naughty word about "stupidity" (since when is laziness a sign of stupidity lol?) has nothing to do with it, and I'm not talking about "The Spartans, or the Huns, or the Mayans, or the Amer-Indians, or the Turks, or the Saxons, or Huns, or Vikings", am I? Did they exist 1300-1600 in Europe?". Were like literally looking for excluded examples to increase how wrong you were? It's working  pretty hard to include the Huns TWICE lol dude, when they're significant before this  period!Strawman harder though, or maybe we can talk about the sort of people who actually had this kind of job in the sort of societies we're discussing in, say FR D&D.The idea that most of these people were as disciplined as modern soldiers shows a profound and extreme lack of understanding of those societies. With people like the Romans you can see it in their own writing, even. A Roman Legionary is going to be a far more dedicated and disciplined guard than a lot of these groups, because they have a discipline structure, formal ways of handling various procedures and so on, but some random Saxon levy? No. Nor a random Saxon who was is being paid by another Saxon to guard a thing.You see this in the 20th century even - many heists/robberies IRL are successful entirely because the guards are lazy and/or don't follow procedures (or even have procedures in some cases).The issue isn't modern/ancient, the issue is "pretty the best trained soldiers (or up there) in the 21st century" being compared to random mercenaries (essentially) being paid to guard stuff in the 1500s or whenever.</blockquote>

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