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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 8275628" data-attributes="member: 22779"><p>And there are those who habitually use this as a defense for not being clear in their statements.</p><p></p><p>Look, if it was just me you were accusing of this, then fine, that might be on me. But, there's been multiple people, to the point where you had to edit your initial post because people were not getting your point. At some point, we all have to take responsibility for breakdowns in communication. If multiple people are "misrepresenting" or "misunderstanding" your points, then perhaps, just perhaps, your points aren't anywhere near as clear as you think they are.</p><p></p><p>Again, I just think that it's funny that it is NEVER anyone who agrees with a point that is "misunderstanding". It's always someone who disagrees. It's a pretty bog standard rhetorical tactic - you get to avoid defending your point by turning it back on the other person with claims they just don't understand. Again, if it was just one poster, then fair enough, it might be the other way. But, when it's at least three, and quite probably more, in the same thread? At what point do you step back and begin to do a bit of self examination?</p><p></p><p>You'll note, you're the only person in this thread whose accusing anyone (let alone multiple people) of misunderstand or misrepresenting your point. Funny how everyone else has no problems understanding each other. I mean, I've disagreed with a shopping list of people in this thread. Yet, they haven't accused me of misrepresenting anything. [USER=16814]@Ovinomancer[/USER] has disagreed with lots of people, and yet, again, only you seem to be misunderstood. [USER=5142]@Aldarc[/USER], [USER=42582]@pemerton[/USER], and others have all disagreed with many people. And, on the other side of the fence, [USER=48965]@Imaro[/USER], [USER=83242]@dave2008[/USER], and a shopping list of others have all disagreed with me and others. </p><p></p><p>Yet, no one seems to be misunderstanding anything. At least no one else is making accusations, not just of misunderstanding, but, being deliberate about it and "misrepresenting" other people's arguments. Never minding the obvious ad hominem in the attack, and ignoring the fact that such accusations are skirting pretty close to violating the site's Code of Conduct, no one else has had these issues. No one else is whacking people on their ignore lists, to my knowledge. No one else is having any difficulties making their points understood.</p><p></p><p>Again, I have to ask, at what point does self-reflection become a really good idea?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 8275628, member: 22779"] And there are those who habitually use this as a defense for not being clear in their statements. Look, if it was just me you were accusing of this, then fine, that might be on me. But, there's been multiple people, to the point where you had to edit your initial post because people were not getting your point. At some point, we all have to take responsibility for breakdowns in communication. If multiple people are "misrepresenting" or "misunderstanding" your points, then perhaps, just perhaps, your points aren't anywhere near as clear as you think they are. Again, I just think that it's funny that it is NEVER anyone who agrees with a point that is "misunderstanding". It's always someone who disagrees. It's a pretty bog standard rhetorical tactic - you get to avoid defending your point by turning it back on the other person with claims they just don't understand. Again, if it was just one poster, then fair enough, it might be the other way. But, when it's at least three, and quite probably more, in the same thread? At what point do you step back and begin to do a bit of self examination? You'll note, you're the only person in this thread whose accusing anyone (let alone multiple people) of misunderstand or misrepresenting your point. Funny how everyone else has no problems understanding each other. I mean, I've disagreed with a shopping list of people in this thread. Yet, they haven't accused me of misrepresenting anything. [USER=16814]@Ovinomancer[/USER] has disagreed with lots of people, and yet, again, only you seem to be misunderstood. [USER=5142]@Aldarc[/USER], [USER=42582]@pemerton[/USER], and others have all disagreed with many people. And, on the other side of the fence, [USER=48965]@Imaro[/USER], [USER=83242]@dave2008[/USER], and a shopping list of others have all disagreed with me and others. Yet, no one seems to be misunderstanding anything. At least no one else is making accusations, not just of misunderstanding, but, being deliberate about it and "misrepresenting" other people's arguments. Never minding the obvious ad hominem in the attack, and ignoring the fact that such accusations are skirting pretty close to violating the site's Code of Conduct, no one else has had these issues. No one else is whacking people on their ignore lists, to my knowledge. No one else is having any difficulties making their points understood. Again, I have to ask, at what point does self-reflection become a really good idea? [/QUOTE]
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