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Message: <blockquote data-quote="prabe" data-source="post: 8275895" data-attributes="member: 7016699">You seem to be saying that if, during a 5E campaign, a whodunit emerges from play, then the table is violating a core assumption of the game (if fighting things won't help you solve the whodunit), dismissing 80% of the system, and plausibly not using 5E. Am I understanding you right?My own campaigns tend toward dark and creep stuff, as well, though not explicitly Mythos. I'd have to talk to the players to see if they thought the overall shifted to Horror, or if they thought it still felt like 5E, or if they thought the tone shifted from arc to arc. I suspect it's harder to manage actual Horror once the characters get past a certain level--and I suspect different people define that "certain level" differently.Of course, I don't see 5E as explicitly insisting that combat always be a good option in an adventure/situation.I think some people think of 5E less as a flavor and more as a foundational thing. Like, since you brought in flavor as a metaphor, I'll use expand it into a cooking metaphor. I have one basic recipe for meat with a pan sauce: The basic recipe is to season steaks with salt and pepper, cook them in butter, saute some shallots, deglaze with whiskey then broth, then mount/finish the sauce with Dijon mustard and cream. I can spin that approach bunches of different ways: I can change out the meat, or the seasonings (my own riffs on Indian, or jerk, or Cajun, or Old Bay, or Mexican ...) or the deglaze, or swap out the shallots for something else, or finish the sauce with something else. If I season pork chops with a funky tropical coffee rub, cook them in vegetable oil, saute onions, deglaze with rum, and finish the sauce with hoisin sauce and peanut butter, I'm still doing the same things but I'm making a radically different dish. I think some people would look at the ingredients and say it's something entirely different; I think some people would look at the process and say it's mostly the same.</blockquote>

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