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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Imaro" data-source="post: 8279340" data-attributes="member: 48965">That's not really the description of Sanity.  And I do think the description of Wisdom as attentiveness... isn't the traditional definition of wisdom whatsoever and Charisma also does double duty as force of personality not just likeability and so on.  But you know what this isn't really a hill I'm committed to dying on so if you feel D&D defines all attributes in line with their commonly understood definitions that's fine.This has been my position and I've avoided arguing whether it's easy or hard because I think alot of that actually is tied up with how long you've played the game, your familiarity and the fact that different people find different cognitive processes easier or harder to deal with.  That said there were a few people who were claiming you couldn't do X in D&D especially earlier in the thread... now whether this was just hyperbole or not I was addressing this specifically and somehow got pulled into a discussion about the minutae of cosmic horror and implementing it in a D&D game.Now while the optional rules may not be to everyone's tastes because of the whole madness debate, and I'm honestly not interested in going down that road again as I am a firm believer that at this point HP Lovecraft is not the mythos or cosmic horror and so there is room for differing interpretations... [USER=18]@Ruin Explorer[/USER] suggests a pretty simple add-on to the Sanity rules that pretty much satisfies the madness=understanding criteria that some feel is necessary for cosmic horror.  See below.  IMO (and apparently in Ruin Explorer's opinion as well) this isn't hard to implement and is reminiscent of the madness track in Unknown Armies 3rd ed (which honestly is a game I hold in pretty high regard).  Now let me ask do you think this solution is too long (It was less than a page to explain and lay out)... do you think it would be too hard to implement at a mechanical level?  Do you think it does a serviceable job at representing insanity in the cosmic horror genre?</blockquote>

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