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Message: <blockquote data-quote="GarrettKP" data-source="post: 9671284" data-attributes="member: 6811472">You thinking this and it being true about the rules aren’t the same thing. Nothing about any of those skills work with identifying a spell, which are rules laid out in Xanathar’s. In Xanathar’s, the rules clearly say people can perceive the casting of a spell only if it has a Verbal, Somatic, or Material component. If you remove all three, you don’t have a way of being identified as casting a spell. As for what the spell is or does, the rules also cover this. In the same section, it states you must use a reaction to make an Arcana check (not Perception or Insight or Investigation) to identify what spell is being cast. That’s the rules. And before you say “Xanathar’s is old and not 2024,” the 2024 PHB says this about perceiving a spell:“Awareness of Being Targeted. Unless a spell has a perceptible effect, a creature doesn’t know it was targeted by the spell. An effect like lightning is obvious, but a more subtle effect, such as an attempt to read thoughts, goes unnoticed unless a spell’s description says otherwise.”And the only mention of identifying a spell outside the identify spell is a sidebar in the PHB that says you have to take the study action to make an Arcana check to identify a “non-instantaneous” spell and nothing about instant spells. So the Xanathar’s rules are still the most comprehensive we have. Just because you don’t agree with the rules doesn’t change them. Targets of spells don’t know they are targets until the spell is obvious or its description says otherwise.</blockquote>

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