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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Yaarel" data-source="post: 9671739" data-attributes="member: 58172">For the record, for me, the you-all-got-kidnapped/arrested and all-of-your-stuff-is-gone, is deeply unfun. What is supposed to be 'disorienting' and 'challenging', is boring, pointless, and frustrating. I dont think D&D needs to ensure this kind of scenario is playable. Maybe the Psion is less vulnerable to this weird situational event, but I wish the Fighter and Wizard didnt have to deal with this situation either. In a sandbox campaign that follows a story wherever it goes, getting arrested or captured 'could' happen, but I dont think it 'should' happen. In my life, as player, this kind of situation has only happened twice. And I hated it both times. Both DMs were great and compassionate, but game scenario was nonentertaining. As a DM, I never did this to the players. That said.I kinda agree that drugging the spellcaster as the only way to incapacitate is unfun (perhaps even a session zero no-go, for certain tables).I think of certain Norse sagas, where the warriors and psions (seið-fólk, etcetera) are about equally powerful, and who would win would be a coin-toss, albeit maybe a bit like 'rocket-tag'. It seems to me, a way to disarm a psion would be something like a successful Intimidation check against the psion. But I am unsure if this would work for D&D. It might make it too easy to disrupt a spellcaster. Also, I doubt it would be sustainable. The moment a psion regained some sense of self-empowerment or an opportunity presented, the psion would flee.I wonder if the idea of using Intimidation to 'force surrender' on any spellcaster (not just Psions) might be viable in D&D − within reason and clearly defined parameters.In the meantime, a down and dirty solution is the arresters/captors have magic restraints that can incapacitate a caster. The tv show Wheel of Time comes to mind, with its trope of magic collars to subjugate the casters. Again, these are not fun D&D encounters. And even Wheel of Time touches on the trauma that this kind situation inflicts on the victim.</blockquote>

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