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<blockquote data-quote="AdmundfortGeographer" data-source="post: 2996086" data-attributes="member: 4682">*looks at Open Locks description* &quot;You can pick padlocks, finesse combination locks, and solve puzzle locks.&quot; *shrugs*&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />I don't agree with this analysis.&nbsp; A knock only undoes &quot;two means of preventing egress&quot;.&nbsp; If a door is locked, barred, and arcane locked, it will take two uses of the spell.&nbsp; Two spells for the day, but if only one knock was prepared... ?&nbsp; A party with a rogue with maxed Open Locks could likely have saved those two spells... Resource management, and all that.Spending treasure and XP for scrolls, well they might have been spent elsewhere when a skill could save the expenditure of both.&nbsp; And with regards to the 4500 gp wand purchasing, to me, that is a matter of style of play if MagicMart is a shoppe around the corner and not indicative of anything with regards to the &quot;sweet spot&quot; as a matter of charcter level spread.&nbsp; Not everyone plays with MagicMart.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="AdmundfortGeographer, post: 2996086, member: 4682"] *looks at Open Locks description* "[i]You can pick padlocks, finesse combination locks, [b]and solve puzzle locks[/b][/i]." *shrugs* ;) I don't agree with this analysis. A [i]knock[/i] only undoes "two means of preventing egress". If a door is locked, barred, and [i]arcane locked[/i], it will take two uses of the spell. Two spells for the day, but if only one [i]knock[/i] was prepared... ? A party with a rogue with maxed Open Locks could likely have saved those two spells... Resource management, and all that. Spending treasure and XP for scrolls, well they might have been spent elsewhere when a skill could save the expenditure of both. And with regards to the 4500 gp wand purchasing, to me, that is a matter of style of play if MagicMart is a shoppe around the corner and not indicative of anything with regards to the "sweet spot" as a matter of charcter level spread. Not everyone plays with MagicMart. [/QUOTE]

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