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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 8611958" data-attributes="member: 18">To be real insult for me is the page count. I've played RPGs for a long time, and one thing I've learned is, outside some really exceptional supplements, is that, given how much space is given over to the bestiary and so on, that page count is not going to be enough to really reach the potential of a setting.And in Ye Olde Dayes, that didn't matter a lot, because settings were only the beginning - there'd inevitably be a ton of sourcebooks associated with a setting, as well as adventures. Here I believe we're getting an adventure, which is nice, but once that's done, that's likely absolutely it for Spelljammer for another 10 or 20 years. When you're going to publish a setting so rarely, which not give it a bit more oomph? A few dozen or a hundred or one-fifty pages probably doesn't add to the cost that much (book experts correct me if I'm wrong, but I'd like number if so), but the value it adds, when a setting is only published ever 10-20 years, is frankly immense. But I feel like them not doing that shows they just don't care - that this isn't an evergreen product, but rather a fan/nostalgia cash-in. And I'm sure it'll be hugely successful (unlike the new starter set, which I think the D&D Cartoon tease on is going to backfire pretty hard on - never make a nerd mad, especially a casual but nostalgic nerd!).Slapping that sort of price on something and then actually having just as few pages as the skinnier and less useful books is not really cool imo.One thing I observed to a friend recently as an adult with a decent-paying job is that, it's not really about cost in the "I can't afford it!" sense it was when we were younger. Obviously I can technically afford $20 more. It's more about value proposition, about what you're being offered. And I know people love to come up with truly demented oranges-and-uranium comparisons, but leaving that lunacy aside, and comparing like-with-like, I just don't see a good value proposition here. I see one so insultingly bad that I actively want to walk away from the entire company - which WotC have never made me feel before - though D&D Beyond has come close a couple of times - but now that is WotC. And I expect that will keep happening.I imagine they'll keep a lid on the prices of the "big three" books for 2024 and keep a free basic set, because taking the big 3 to say $70, even though each is better value than this, would push "D&D" over the $200 mark, which is known to be distinctly off-putting to customers. So $60 or even less is likely. But I'd be very unsurprised to see supplements and sourcebooks staying extremely skinny, staying 192 pages or even declining to 160 or less, and going for $70 or more as we continue though this decade, post-2024.</blockquote>

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