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<blockquote data-quote="Scribe" data-source="post: 8407566" data-attributes="member: 6807152"><p>It doesnt mean that at all. Especially when the MM specifically, clearly, openly, states in plain English.</p><p></p><p>"Feel free to depart from it and change..." and "...there is nothing stopping you." So describe to me how thats the 'only way' when it literally says otherwise, and there are (seemingly) popular, officially printed and supported settings that COMPLETELY go against that default.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Because its more work to add a system, than it is to ignore it. Especially in a rules set that makes so little use of it.</p><p></p><p>And because enough people want it, that Wizards actively acknowledged that with the Feywild book, and added 'typically' and other qualifiers because, apparently people dont read the MM.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, take it up with how the MM and Volo's are written. Nobody is arguing Orcs MUST ONLY BE EVIL.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Nothing supports non-Evil Orcs? Again. From the MM. Direct, irrefutable, undeniable, support for Orcs of ANY Alignment you choose. In print.</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]144378[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Because you want them to be something specific, or generalized, or 'anything'. Scratch out 'Chaotic Evil' or tape over it and write 'Any Alignment'.</p><p></p><p>I'm not saying you have to like Alignment. I've come around to the idea thanks to this, and a few other threads since locked, that taken holistically, there is a flaw within how the whole system as presented by Wizards works for a default presentation, and that these issues must be handled at a setting level.</p><p></p><p>To be perfectly clear: I actually believe that is an issue in how the default presentation of "Alignment as a Cosmic Force", Gods, and Races (Alignment) specifically interact, but that doesnt mean that MANY MANY people, do not get value out of "Alignment as Short Hand Description of Behavior" without moral or ethical judgment.</p><p></p><p>These 2 perspectives on Alignment are not the same, and having issue with one, is not the same as having issue with the other.</p><p></p><p>As evidenced by many people in this thread, they do not even consider the moral or ethical ramifications of Alignment, and its not important to them.</p><p></p><p>As to the rest?</p><p></p><p>This thread isnt even about racial alignments, but yes I refuse to purchase a book that is as general in terms of how it defines PC options, as Tasha's, or the Feywild book.</p><p></p><p>If Rabbit people were 'Typically Chaotic Good' and 'ASI is Typically +2 Dex, +2 Int'. I would snap that book up. Right now. Heck, drop the Alignment portion, just give me the ASI and I would buy it!</p><p></p><p>When instead its.</p><p></p><p>"Small or Human, you pick. Height and Weight are roughly Human, you pick. Languages are up to you and the DM, you pick. ASI is up to you, you pick."</p><p></p><p>What am I paying Wizards money for? Rip those 2 or 3 pages out completely and I would buy the book, but that? Thats trash, and I wont support it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Scribe, post: 8407566, member: 6807152"] It doesnt mean that at all. Especially when the MM specifically, clearly, openly, states in plain English. "Feel free to depart from it and change..." and "...there is nothing stopping you." So describe to me how thats the 'only way' when it literally says otherwise, and there are (seemingly) popular, officially printed and supported settings that COMPLETELY go against that default. Because its more work to add a system, than it is to ignore it. Especially in a rules set that makes so little use of it. And because enough people want it, that Wizards actively acknowledged that with the Feywild book, and added 'typically' and other qualifiers because, apparently people dont read the MM. Yes, take it up with how the MM and Volo's are written. Nobody is arguing Orcs MUST ONLY BE EVIL. Nothing supports non-Evil Orcs? Again. From the MM. Direct, irrefutable, undeniable, support for Orcs of ANY Alignment you choose. In print. [ATTACH type="full" alt="Alignment.JPG"]144378[/ATTACH] Because you want them to be something specific, or generalized, or 'anything'. Scratch out 'Chaotic Evil' or tape over it and write 'Any Alignment'. I'm not saying you have to like Alignment. I've come around to the idea thanks to this, and a few other threads since locked, that taken holistically, there is a flaw within how the whole system as presented by Wizards works for a default presentation, and that these issues must be handled at a setting level. To be perfectly clear: I actually believe that is an issue in how the default presentation of "Alignment as a Cosmic Force", Gods, and Races (Alignment) specifically interact, but that doesnt mean that MANY MANY people, do not get value out of "Alignment as Short Hand Description of Behavior" without moral or ethical judgment. These 2 perspectives on Alignment are not the same, and having issue with one, is not the same as having issue with the other. As evidenced by many people in this thread, they do not even consider the moral or ethical ramifications of Alignment, and its not important to them. As to the rest? This thread isnt even about racial alignments, but yes I refuse to purchase a book that is as general in terms of how it defines PC options, as Tasha's, or the Feywild book. If Rabbit people were 'Typically Chaotic Good' and 'ASI is Typically +2 Dex, +2 Int'. I would snap that book up. Right now. Heck, drop the Alignment portion, just give me the ASI and I would buy it! When instead its. "Small or Human, you pick. Height and Weight are roughly Human, you pick. Languages are up to you and the DM, you pick. ASI is up to you, you pick." What am I paying Wizards money for? Rip those 2 or 3 pages out completely and I would buy the book, but that? Thats trash, and I wont support it. [/QUOTE]
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