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<blockquote data-quote="FitzTheRuke" data-source="post: 9467513" data-attributes="member: 59816">&lt;Trying desperately to follow what you're trying to illustrate.&gt;,You're losing me.I think I follow this &quot;in theory&quot; but it's a phenomenon that I have never experienced. Players get involved in the story because they want to be involved in it. And DM isn't so much telling the story as building it, with the player's active involvement.Often when you and I speak, I can't understand where you're coming from, because I can't even envision what a table like you are implying would even look like. So I think that I resist your illustrations (assuming that I understand them correctly) on that basis. Am I right that you are (generally) trying to illustrate a potential worst case scenario (as opposed to, say, your expected 'everyday' experience)? Because I think it makes more sense on that level. But I'm not sure.I did probably miss that part, because I can't imagine it happening. I mean, don't get me wrong, I expect any game/story that is made by a group of individuals to include side-tangents and unforeseen routes to point B or unexpected solutions to problem Y. That's a feature, not a flaw.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="FitzTheRuke, post: 9467513, member: 59816"] <Trying desperately to follow what you're trying to illustrate.> ,You're losing me. I think I follow this "in theory" but it's a phenomenon that I have never experienced. Players get involved in the story [I]because they want to be involved in it[/I]. And DM isn't so much [I]telling[/I] the story as [I]building[/I] it, with the player's active involvement. Often when you and I speak, I can't understand where you're coming from, because I can't even envision what a table like you are implying would even look like. So I think that I resist your illustrations (assuming that I understand them correctly) on that basis. Am I right that you are (generally) trying to illustrate a potential [I]worst case scenario[/I] (as opposed to, say, your expected 'everyday' experience)? Because I think it makes more sense on that level. But I'm not sure. I [I]did[/I] probably miss that part, because I can't imagine it happening. I mean, don't get me wrong, I expect any game/story that is made by a group of individuals to include side-tangents and unforeseen routes to point B or unexpected solutions to problem Y. That's a feature, not a flaw. [/QUOTE]

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