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<blockquote data-quote="Snarf Zagyg" data-source="post: 9388213" data-attributes="member: 7023840"><p>So I have similar tastes to yours. </p><p></p><p>My primary games that I run are 5e (for the kids!) which is pretty much "base 5e."</p><p>5e for the olds, which is a streamlined and modified 5e that plays more "old school."</p><p>A heavily modified and streamlined AD&D.</p><p>A variety of rules-lite games (usually for one-shots).</p><p></p><p>The biggest complaint I have had about 5e is that it is "too magic," in the sense that every character has magic all the time- starting with attack cantrips. Magic is both ubiquitous, but also less <em>special</em> that it was in the TSR days ... yes, you had fewer spells, and those spells might also kill you or fizzle out, but when they worked ....</p><p></p><p></p><p><img src="https://www.enworld.org/media/1718116357705-png.145322/full" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" /></p><p></p><p>And I've discussed some thoughts about it. <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/spellcasters-and-balance-in-5e-a-poll.680650/" target="_blank">A poll about whether spellcasting is unbalanced in 5e</a> (unsurprisingly finding that most people like it). <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/nerfing-wizards-the-old-fashioned-way-magic-user-in-1e.674639/" target="_blank">An explanation about why Magic Users in 1e </a>were not all that. </p><p></p><p>And a proposal to adopt the Lankhmar rules to 5e! </p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.enworld.org/threads/too-much-spellcasting-in-your-d-d-just-add-a-little-lankhmar.680639/[/URL]</p><p></p><p>But here's the thing- most modern players... they like the spells. So this is what I would say:</p><p></p><p>1. Check with the table. Is this something the players want, or that you want?</p><p></p><p>2. Try playing B/X or an OSR clone. See how that goes, and if you really want to go back to low magic.</p><p></p><p>3. If you want to go back to low magic, see if you want to use an OSR system, modify 5e, or use a 3PP 5e variant. I can't personally comment on it, but I've heard people say that LoTR 5e (the Lord of the Rings TTRPG using the 5e system) is both familiar and also low magic, so that might hit the sweet spot for you.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Snarf Zagyg, post: 9388213, member: 7023840"] So I have similar tastes to yours. My primary games that I run are 5e (for the kids!) which is pretty much "base 5e." 5e for the olds, which is a streamlined and modified 5e that plays more "old school." A heavily modified and streamlined AD&D. A variety of rules-lite games (usually for one-shots). The biggest complaint I have had about 5e is that it is "too magic," in the sense that every character has magic all the time- starting with attack cantrips. Magic is both ubiquitous, but also less [I]special[/I] that it was in the TSR days ... yes, you had fewer spells, and those spells might also kill you or fizzle out, but when they worked .... [IMG]https://www.enworld.org/media/1718116357705-png.145322/full[/IMG] And I've discussed some thoughts about it. [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/spellcasters-and-balance-in-5e-a-poll.680650/']A poll about whether spellcasting is unbalanced in 5e[/URL] (unsurprisingly finding that most people like it). [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/nerfing-wizards-the-old-fashioned-way-magic-user-in-1e.674639/']An explanation about why Magic Users in 1e [/URL]were not all that. And a proposal to adopt the Lankhmar rules to 5e! [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.enworld.org/threads/too-much-spellcasting-in-your-d-d-just-add-a-little-lankhmar.680639/[/URL] But here's the thing- most modern players... they like the spells. So this is what I would say: 1. Check with the table. Is this something the players want, or that you want? 2. Try playing B/X or an OSR clone. See how that goes, and if you really want to go back to low magic. 3. If you want to go back to low magic, see if you want to use an OSR system, modify 5e, or use a 3PP 5e variant. I can't personally comment on it, but I've heard people say that LoTR 5e (the Lord of the Rings TTRPG using the 5e system) is both familiar and also low magic, so that might hit the sweet spot for you. [/QUOTE]
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