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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Desdichado" data-source="post: 9390011" data-attributes="member: 2205">Until I finally gave up and went into rules light alternatives, E6 was my solution to the genre confusion and outright brokenness of higher level D&d too. Now I'd probably do something even more simple: just slow leveling down and never get very high level anyway before ending the campaign and starting another one. But the tone seems to have changed. I'm not super familiar with 4e or 5e, but from what I've seen of them, they appear to be even more whimsical and magical at all levels of play. (This was also starting to be a noticeable problem in the 3.x era.) I'm sure I could houserule it into playability, mostly by cutting most of the races and classes, but why bother when there are easier approaches? As for finding a game, I started up with a group of mostly non-gamers, so they didn't have any other frame of reference other than what I told them this game was going to be like anyway.</blockquote>