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<blockquote data-quote="TiQuinn" data-source="post: 9625200" data-attributes="member: 4871"><p>These are the kinds of posts that I find really frustrating. Not because you drifted away from the game, or felt like you didn't fit in when AD&D became AD&D 2nd Edition (I have my own thoughts here - having played the vast majority of 1e adventures under 2e rules with little issue given that 2e was designed to be <em>extremely</em> backward compatible), or when new terminology and acronyms reared their head, but because you've created this scenario where some creator or fan that you somewhat derisively name BigDog KoolGamer launches or expresses interest in a game that you go on to mock because you see the name as outrageous in some way. I feel like you're giving people the old "Look at this weirdo" kind of elbow nudge when you talk about "Kagreshikia: Eve of the Chainsaw Dimension Hopper Outlaw T-Rex Poachers" -- whatever that is supposed to represent.</p><p></p><p>Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles? Thirsty Sword Lesbians? All Flesh Must Be Eaten? Cadillacs and Dinosaurs? There are a lot of games (and comics) out there with "weird" names but none of them demand your attention - so why do they receive your derision? If it's not your thing, then it's not your thing. Let people enjoy what they like.</p><p></p><p>OSR, OGL, SRD - these are not new terms. They've been around 20+ years at this point, give or take, but likewise, they don't really demand your understanding. The OGL and the SRD are industry facing terms that fans have also been interested in because they enable third parties to create compatible products for D&D, which a lot of people consider a good thing, but the pecularities of them are not really necessary for a fan to understand the differences. I admit I have the same issue when people talk about trad, or neo-trad or classic games but I can certainly look up those differences if I really need to - I just don't know if I find the groupings of these games to be either clean or useful to me. But the existence of these terms are no more a barrier to playing games than anything else. Believe it or not, I have the same bag of dice and boxes of miniatures you do.</p><p></p><p>But what really surprises me is that somehow through all of this you were able to wrap your head around Elder Scrolls, Skyrim, and Diablo II, and link them in the same sentence with a Commodore 64 game, which suggests to me that at some level, you're able to enjoy "newer" computer games as opposed to the ones you grew up with. It's not a total mental block towards anything "new" (I say this in quotes because even those games are considered old now but certainly much newer than anything that came out in the early or mid 80s.)</p><p></p><p>So what gives? Was this just planting your flag out there and saying "I'm a grognard and proud of it?"</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TiQuinn, post: 9625200, member: 4871"] These are the kinds of posts that I find really frustrating. Not because you drifted away from the game, or felt like you didn't fit in when AD&D became AD&D 2nd Edition (I have my own thoughts here - having played the vast majority of 1e adventures under 2e rules with little issue given that 2e was designed to be [I]extremely[/I] backward compatible), or when new terminology and acronyms reared their head, but because you've created this scenario where some creator or fan that you somewhat derisively name BigDog KoolGamer launches or expresses interest in a game that you go on to mock because you see the name as outrageous in some way. I feel like you're giving people the old "Look at this weirdo" kind of elbow nudge when you talk about "Kagreshikia: Eve of the Chainsaw Dimension Hopper Outlaw T-Rex Poachers" -- whatever that is supposed to represent. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles? Thirsty Sword Lesbians? All Flesh Must Be Eaten? Cadillacs and Dinosaurs? There are a lot of games (and comics) out there with "weird" names but none of them demand your attention - so why do they receive your derision? If it's not your thing, then it's not your thing. Let people enjoy what they like. OSR, OGL, SRD - these are not new terms. They've been around 20+ years at this point, give or take, but likewise, they don't really demand your understanding. The OGL and the SRD are industry facing terms that fans have also been interested in because they enable third parties to create compatible products for D&D, which a lot of people consider a good thing, but the pecularities of them are not really necessary for a fan to understand the differences. I admit I have the same issue when people talk about trad, or neo-trad or classic games but I can certainly look up those differences if I really need to - I just don't know if I find the groupings of these games to be either clean or useful to me. But the existence of these terms are no more a barrier to playing games than anything else. Believe it or not, I have the same bag of dice and boxes of miniatures you do. But what really surprises me is that somehow through all of this you were able to wrap your head around Elder Scrolls, Skyrim, and Diablo II, and link them in the same sentence with a Commodore 64 game, which suggests to me that at some level, you're able to enjoy "newer" computer games as opposed to the ones you grew up with. It's not a total mental block towards anything "new" (I say this in quotes because even those games are considered old now but certainly much newer than anything that came out in the early or mid 80s.) So what gives? Was this just planting your flag out there and saying "I'm a grognard and proud of it?" [/QUOTE]
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