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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ghaladen" data-source="post: 5493116" data-attributes="member: 92198">Yeah, that does seem to be a recurring problem in systems like 4th edition. Mostly that that has nothing to do with the system itself, but instead the culture that surrounds it, as is the case with a lot of 4e players I've gamed with. I grew up with AD&D 2e, and rp heavy games (background stories, heavy conversation, actually solving problems with wit instead of skill checks) are something that's heavily ingrained in me, so I tend to not stick around games that are all dice rolls.My theory behind it is since World of Warcraft is the icon of fantasy gaming these days, and WoW is from what I can tell mostly mechanics and little story, I guess people tend to approach D&D with that angle. Mind you there's nothing wrong with that, I just don't enjoy combat heavy games. Which is also why I tend to drift more towards Pathfinder. The reason is mainly because the Pathfinder players (at least the ones I've seen) tend to be more story driven over combat. Mind you there's always exceptions to the rule, as there are some Pathfinder players who are power gamers, and in the case of our Encounters game our DM and a few of us are big on story, but these guys I play with here are a diamond in the rough.</blockquote>