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<blockquote data-quote="Warpiglet-7" data-source="post: 9843068" data-attributes="member: 7025282"><p>I know yours is a genuine question an inquiry so will try to answer. First things first: I think 5e (gulp) might be superior to 1e in some respects. </p><p></p><p>Secondly, if you see it “a lot” there is probably something there. And I think you are asking honestly so I will try to articulate.</p><p></p><p>Enter all disclaimers about D&D being anachronistic and ahistorical…I get it as a lover of history.</p><p></p><p>There is no evocation of a real history for me at any point. There is however an evocation of a fantasy archetype of a time and place that never existed except in fiction and pulling a little from history books…tangentially.</p><p></p><p>It is indeed about proportion. I looked at my brother’s 2024 PHB and just did not enjoy the art direction.</p><p></p><p>I have lots of 1e modules and of course the hardbacks. Yes, there were line art cartoons...trying to be funny. But if you take the PHB, dmg, and monster manual from 1e, count the scenes of smiling characters and domestic bliss. Now do the same with 2024 PHB alone. </p><p></p><p>I would say the tone in color choices, spectacle wearing, modern tattoos and sushi and taco eating probably also detract from the vibe for ME and what I am looking for.</p><p></p><p>I am not saying it is “wrong.” Just not the vibe I like and does not evoke fantasy tropes I like. Happy orc families —not my bag.</p><p></p><p>None of it is “wrong” and there are plenty of tattoos, colored hair and piercings on my family members and people I love most in my home, right now. But I don’t want to see “them” in the rpg. I am looking for something that is more out of line with the modern.</p><p></p><p>I hope that helps clarify what I meant and don’t mean a bit of offense to anyone that prefers the new aesthetic. I could even see myself playing an artificer one day…or in a game that has magic ship to ship combat in space. </p><p></p><p>Not at you Dave, but into the void:</p><p></p><p>(Bracing for the “you’re focused on only a few pictures,” the game is supposed to appeal to the kids and not 40-50 year old geezers like “you guys,” etc etc etc). I get it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Warpiglet-7, post: 9843068, member: 7025282"] I know yours is a genuine question an inquiry so will try to answer. First things first: I think 5e (gulp) might be superior to 1e in some respects. Secondly, if you see it “a lot” there is probably something there. And I think you are asking honestly so I will try to articulate. Enter all disclaimers about D&D being anachronistic and ahistorical…I get it as a lover of history. There is no evocation of a real history for me at any point. There is however an evocation of a fantasy archetype of a time and place that never existed except in fiction and pulling a little from history books…tangentially. It is indeed about proportion. I looked at my brother’s 2024 PHB and just did not enjoy the art direction. I have lots of 1e modules and of course the hardbacks. Yes, there were line art cartoons...trying to be funny. But if you take the PHB, dmg, and monster manual from 1e, count the scenes of smiling characters and domestic bliss. Now do the same with 2024 PHB alone. I would say the tone in color choices, spectacle wearing, modern tattoos and sushi and taco eating probably also detract from the vibe for ME and what I am looking for. I am not saying it is “wrong.” Just not the vibe I like and does not evoke fantasy tropes I like. Happy orc families —not my bag. None of it is “wrong” and there are plenty of tattoos, colored hair and piercings on my family members and people I love most in my home, right now. But I don’t want to see “them” in the rpg. I am looking for something that is more out of line with the modern. I hope that helps clarify what I meant and don’t mean a bit of offense to anyone that prefers the new aesthetic. I could even see myself playing an artificer one day…or in a game that has magic ship to ship combat in space. Not at you Dave, but into the void: (Bracing for the “you’re focused on only a few pictures,” the game is supposed to appeal to the kids and not 40-50 year old geezers like “you guys,” etc etc etc). I get it. [/QUOTE]
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