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<blockquote data-quote="Necropolitan" data-source="post: 9843272" data-attributes="member: 6669245"><p>In 3.5 Glabrezus could cast Wish for a mortal once per month. Then 4E removed it and 5E didn't bring it back.</p><p></p><p>They were one of the few (and maybe only) non-unique Chaotic Evil beings who could grant Wishes. It was the perfect setup for "Be careful what you wish for" plots where you didn't need to come up with any motivation for the wish-granting villain other than "They think it's fun!"</p><p></p><p>Glabrezus also used to be able to cast illusion spells to disguise themselves. Which they needed to do because they look like this:</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]427804[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>Nobody with any sense would accept a Wish from that guy. With an illusion they could make themselves look like anyone or anything and could easily get someone to let their guard down enough to say "I wish X" and then twist that to cause harm.</p><p></p><p>But 5E stripped away all their spells that could bribe or trick mortals while keeping their characterization as Demons who specialize in tricking and betraying mortals. They're not even proficient in Deception in 5E, they have a +3 to the roll which is the same as a 1st level PC with proficiency and just a +1 Charisma bonus!</p><p></p><p>So 5E's replaced a monster with endless possibilities for both combat and social encounters with one that will most likely just be a combat encounter with what amounts to a flying melee combatant with a few combat-specific spells.</p><p></p><p>Also the 3.5 art for them was better (there's a Vrock in front of them):</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]427805[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>The 3.5 art has a menacing stance, is wearing jewelry (which indicates intelligence), is more detailed, and if you told people it was one of the most powerful forms of non-unique Demon they'd believe it.</p><p></p><p>Meanwhile the 5E Glabrezu art looks like a dumb raging brute who might not even be sapient.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Necropolitan, post: 9843272, member: 6669245"] In 3.5 Glabrezus could cast Wish for a mortal once per month. Then 4E removed it and 5E didn't bring it back. They were one of the few (and maybe only) non-unique Chaotic Evil beings who could grant Wishes. It was the perfect setup for "Be careful what you wish for" plots where you didn't need to come up with any motivation for the wish-granting villain other than "They think it's fun!" Glabrezus also used to be able to cast illusion spells to disguise themselves. Which they needed to do because they look like this: [ATTACH type="full" width="407px" size="1200x960"]427804[/ATTACH] Nobody with any sense would accept a Wish from that guy. With an illusion they could make themselves look like anyone or anything and could easily get someone to let their guard down enough to say "I wish X" and then twist that to cause harm. But 5E stripped away all their spells that could bribe or trick mortals while keeping their characterization as Demons who specialize in tricking and betraying mortals. They're not even proficient in Deception in 5E, they have a +3 to the roll which is the same as a 1st level PC with proficiency and just a +1 Charisma bonus! So 5E's replaced a monster with endless possibilities for both combat and social encounters with one that will most likely just be a combat encounter with what amounts to a flying melee combatant with a few combat-specific spells. Also the 3.5 art for them was better (there's a Vrock in front of them): [ATTACH type="full" size="400x534"]427805[/ATTACH] The 3.5 art has a menacing stance, is wearing jewelry (which indicates intelligence), is more detailed, and if you told people it was one of the most powerful forms of non-unique Demon they'd believe it. Meanwhile the 5E Glabrezu art looks like a dumb raging brute who might not even be sapient. [/QUOTE]
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