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<blockquote data-quote="CreamCloud0" data-source="post: 9843421" data-attributes="member: 7034710"><p>i disagree, stories don't have neat beginnings middles and ends, they start and stop within themselves and overlap and intertwine with each other, you can't just stand at the end and say 'well that's now a story because it's finished' it's like, take lord of the rings, where does it start? when sauron was born? when he learned to make the rings? on bilbo's 111th birthday when frodo receives the ring? and where does it end? when the ring is destroyed in mt doom? when aragorn is crowned king? when bilbo and frodo leave on the elf ship? and what about all the stories inbetween those points or don't start or end related? how far do you need to backtrack from the events of the hobbit to say where things relate to the story of the ring? the rise and fall of erebor? is bilbo's troll encounter not it's own story? smeagol finding the ring and turning into golum? these are all stories happening even as they play out, they don't 'become' stories retroactively and you can never tell that a story isn't going to be continued at a later point after it initially seemed to of already ended, if you didn't have the knowledge of future events, you'd say that gandalf's story ended when he died falling with the balrog in moria.</p><p></p><p>this might not of been said seriouly but i feel this quote from the recent kingdom hearts fandub is still true and meaningful on the subject "<em>one time, when i was swimming, i saw that there was something grey on the floor, and so i picked it up, and then i realised that this in and of itself, was a story, everything can be a story</em>"</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CreamCloud0, post: 9843421, member: 7034710"] i disagree, stories don't have neat beginnings middles and ends, they start and stop within themselves and overlap and intertwine with each other, you can't just stand at the end and say 'well that's now a story because it's finished' it's like, take lord of the rings, where does it start? when sauron was born? when he learned to make the rings? on bilbo's 111th birthday when frodo receives the ring? and where does it end? when the ring is destroyed in mt doom? when aragorn is crowned king? when bilbo and frodo leave on the elf ship? and what about all the stories inbetween those points or don't start or end related? how far do you need to backtrack from the events of the hobbit to say where things relate to the story of the ring? the rise and fall of erebor? is bilbo's troll encounter not it's own story? smeagol finding the ring and turning into golum? these are all stories happening even as they play out, they don't 'become' stories retroactively and you can never tell that a story isn't going to be continued at a later point after it initially seemed to of already ended, if you didn't have the knowledge of future events, you'd say that gandalf's story ended when he died falling with the balrog in moria. this might not of been said seriouly but i feel this quote from the recent kingdom hearts fandub is still true and meaningful on the subject "[I]one time, when i was swimming, i saw that there was something grey on the floor, and so i picked it up, and then i realised that this in and of itself, was a story, everything can be a story[/I]" [/QUOTE]
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