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Message: <blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 9845262" data-attributes="member: 6790260">I'd like to offer a different perspective to DoaM.Your "attack roll" is not one singular strike. It's half a dozen strikes, and whether or not the collective of them was worth it or not.DoaM is saying, "Sure, you barely did anything...but 'barely anything' is not 'nothing.'" This is a concept that has been present from the very beginning.Also: the existence of Evasion contradicts your theory. When a person with Evasion makes a Dexterity saving throw, they don't take any damage at all on a success. Hence, it cannot be true that the fireball definitely actually does hit all of its area of effect, because it is possible for someone to remain wholly within that area, use zero magical abilities (unless we count baseline Rogue as magical now?), and yet take no damage whatsoever, regardless of terrain or any other possible explanation for this state of affairs.So, either your "caught off guard" argument should apply just as much to those things which allow DoaM, or it shouldn't apply to fireball and thus an opposition to DoaM should also take umbrage with save-for-half, if it is logically consistent.</blockquote>