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<blockquote data-quote="Lanefan" data-source="post: 9847312" data-attributes="member: 29398">To which a DM should be well within rights to reply &quot;Great; but sorry, you'll have to find another DM 'cause there ain't no Tortles* in this campaign's setting&quot;.* - or whatever class-species is in question.The two bolded things are IME often said about the same thing, whatever that thing might be: DMs tend to say the first while players tend to say the second.I'm one for tradition.&nbsp; I think it's one thing baseball really does right: a hypothetical record set in 1922 remains valid today as the game hasn't changed enough to render that record meaningless.&nbsp; The game just is what it is and keeps on keeping on just like it has since before 1900.We don't have nearly enough of that in D&amp;D.&nbsp; A character played in 1982 or 1992 or 2002 would almost universally be crushed if put in an arena against its direct 2026 species-class-level counterpart; and while surviving through 9 levels was a major accomplishment in 1982 (and took years of play to do) it's a relative triviality today and often done in just a few months.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Lanefan, post: 9847312, member: 29398"] To which a DM should be well within rights to reply "Great; but sorry, you'll have to find another DM 'cause there ain't no Tortles* in this campaign's setting". * - or whatever class-species is in question. The two bolded things are IME often said about the same thing, whatever that thing might be: DMs tend to say the first while players tend to say the second. I'm one for tradition. I think it's one thing baseball really does right: a hypothetical record set in 1922 remains valid today as the game hasn't changed enough to render that record meaningless. The game just is what it is and keeps on keeping on just like it has since before 1900. We don't have nearly enough of that in D&D. A character played in 1982 or 1992 or 2002 would almost universally be crushed if put in an arena against its direct 2026 species-class-level counterpart; and while surviving through 9 levels was a major accomplishment in 1982 (and took years of play to do) it's a relative triviality today and often done in just a few months. [/QUOTE]

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