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<blockquote data-quote="jmartkdr2" data-source="post: 9847905" data-attributes="member: 7017304">I think this is where the pushback is coming from you not liking the &quot;leader role&quot; in 4e -4e &quot;leaders&quot; generally only gave other players free stuff, they never forced you to use your actions in certain ways. They might change circumstances which could change what options you might choose - but so might any other aspect of the game like dms, dice, narrative, etc.The warlord isn't making you use an action to attack, they're giving you an absolutely free attack. The only possible reason to reject it you don't want the party to win the fight, which in-universe means you don't want the party to live, since all fights have the possibility of death.Sure there are real--life people who would rather kill the whole bus than accept help, but they're usually kicked off teams.(In my experience, it's not the support characters doing the bullying.)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="jmartkdr2, post: 9847905, member: 7017304"] I think this is where the pushback is coming from you not liking the "leader role" in 4e - 4e "leaders" generally only gave other players free stuff, they never forced you to use your actions in certain ways. They might change circumstances which could change what options you might choose - but so might any other aspect of the game like dms, dice, narrative, etc. The warlord isn't making you use an action to attack, they're giving you an absolutely free attack. The only possible reason to reject it you don't want the party to win the fight, which in-universe means you don't want the party to live, since all fights have the possibility of death. Sure there are real--life people who would rather kill the whole bus than accept help, but they're usually kicked off teams. (In my experience, it's not the support characters doing the bullying.) [/QUOTE]

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