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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 7003462" data-attributes="member: 6801228">I didn't get to delve too deep in 4e, but one thing I'm coming to miss (kind of?) more and more are those different titled "class levels" at paragon and epic. Thematically, I like the idea that a person who gets to a certain level of power gains some sort of respect or makes a deal or somehow earns a title and power beyond what he had before. I like that, I like that if my players end up in the Fae and doing "good" they could end up as a Winter's Champion, or if some thing like that. It didn't work mechanically though to fit that idea exactly (you gained when you leveled whenever that was) and it would be hard to do in 5e anyways (other than just giving people more power) but... I liked that what little of 4e I got to see had more Epic in the Epic fantasy. I also like the idea of getting rules for levels 21-30 now that I think about it. I loved the introduction of Primal power and spirits that have their own agendas and purposes seperate from the gods. I don't like that 5e is not exploring that area as much yet (though that seems to be changing)I wish some of the monsters in 5e were closer to their literature roots (why goblins why) but one thing I prefer over 4e is 5e's monster lore. I like all the small little pieces that make these things interesting and terrifying. Hags eat babies to give birth to new hags. WTH is that all about, that is crazy and disturbing and AWESOME. Stuff like that is great.Honestly though, I really want to change some of the race assumptions of DnD. I haven't done it yet, because balance and lore would no longer meet up with mechanics, but I really prefer fantasy worlds where Elves are plants, dwarves are made of metal or stone, halflings are more interesting (sometimes they get smashed up with gnomes, other times they end up... odd), Dragons are essentially elemental beings, I even read one amazing story where they had vegan orcs, and it was wonderful. Really, the less Tolkien it is, the more interesting I tend to find it.</blockquote>

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