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<blockquote data-quote="EvilDwarf" data-source="post: 5171136" data-attributes="member: 46843">Been brainstorming lately about a 4E lite for reasons that have been discussed on these boards a lot: combat sometimes takes too long, our group has misplaced priorities (like kids and family--just kidding) so we don't get together as often, our sessions are shorter, we lack time to prep between sessions, and though 4E is arguably a lean and mean system it could be leaner and meaner, etc.&nbsp;I picked up Heroscape D&amp;D and it's really good and also gave me some ideas about developing that 4E lite. Rules are simple, scenarios are discrete.... The D&amp;D characters and monsters are stripped down to essentials with some very interesting interpretations of powers that keep the D&amp;D flavor while simplifying and speeding game play. HP = Life and range from like 1 thru 4 or something (each hit takes a Life point), Attack = number of dice you roll, Defense = number of dice you roll, etc.&nbsp;I'm wondering if anyone has given any thought to using Heroscape D&amp;D as a model for a faster-play 4E lite?&nbsp;For instance, converting 4E monsters to Heroscape-type stats? For example, Minions would have 1 Life, skirmishers might convert to 2 Life, Brutes might convert to 4 Life, Solo to 7 Life.... AC would convert to Defense die rolled, etc. Has anyone thought about attempting this, or be interested in helping me think this through?&nbsp;Or, maybe the work has been done and it's called D&amp;D Minis? Maybe a 4E Lite could be constructed from DDM? Or, maybe DDM IS 4e Lite?&nbsp;Any interest or thoughts? (Sorry if I'm rambling--just getting started with some brainstorming and maybe there's some interest, or someone has also done something like this or has had this idea...)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="EvilDwarf, post: 5171136, member: 46843"] Been brainstorming lately about a 4E lite for reasons that have been discussed on these boards a lot: combat sometimes takes too long, our group has misplaced priorities (like kids and family--just kidding) so we don't get together as often, our sessions are shorter, we lack time to prep between sessions, and though 4E is arguably a lean and mean system it could be leaner and meaner, etc. I picked up Heroscape D&D and it's really good and also gave me some ideas about developing that 4E lite. Rules are simple, scenarios are discrete.... The D&D characters and monsters are stripped down to essentials with some very interesting interpretations of powers that keep the D&D flavor while simplifying and speeding game play. HP = Life and range from like 1 thru 4 or something (each hit takes a Life point), Attack = number of dice you roll, Defense = number of dice you roll, etc. I'm wondering if anyone has given any thought to using Heroscape D&D as a model for a faster-play 4E lite? For instance, converting 4E monsters to Heroscape-type stats? For example, Minions would have 1 Life, skirmishers might convert to 2 Life, Brutes might convert to 4 Life, Solo to 7 Life.... AC would convert to Defense die rolled, etc. Has anyone thought about attempting this, or be interested in helping me think this through? Or, maybe the work has been done and it's called D&D Minis? Maybe a 4E Lite could be constructed from DDM? Or, maybe DDM IS 4e Lite? Any interest or thoughts? (Sorry if I'm rambling--just getting started with some brainstorming and maybe there's some interest, or someone has also done something like this or has had this idea...) [/QUOTE]

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