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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 9409268" data-attributes="member: 6801228"><p>What are you talking about? </p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]373352[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>This image is directly from the Wizards of the Coast home page: <a href="https://company.wizards.com/en" target="_blank">Wizards of the Coast</a></p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]373353[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]373354[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>Skeleton Key and Invoke aren't listing major products on their home website, but a second google search shows: Skeleton Key is new as of 2022 and their game still seems to be in development for a AAA release. Invoke is a new name for an old company, their current games include D&D Dark Alliance from 2021 and a game called Livelock</p><p></p><p>So, okay, you can argue that the Wizard of the Coast Company is not itself legally taxable as a studio, but that would be like arguing that Nintendo doesn't make Pokemon because technically they only own the studio for Game Freak. This is business accounting stuff for taxes and liabilities, not some indication that WoTC who has been behind multiple video games and officially owns multiple studios is somehow only just now "dipping their toes" into the digital marketplace. They have three AAA studios.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, what are you talking about? </p><p></p><p>Champions of Krynn on floppy disc was a version of DnD from TSR that was an interactive yet limited digital environment. DnD was made into a video game<strong><em><u> in 1988</u></em></strong>. I played those games. They were DnD, on the computer. So how in the world will the game get damaged by something that happened <strong><em><u>36 years ago</u></em></strong>?! The game is already "easily transitioned to an interactive digital environment", what the actual heck do you think an RPG video game IS? Do you think people in the videogame industry use the term as some sort of bizarre coincidence? Like, oops, we made a fantasy game using terms like level and experience points, where mages and fighting-men equip weapons and armor, and use potions, and fight floating eyeballs and squid-faced monsters and we call it a Role-playing Game.... but we have never heard of Dungeons and Dragons before? Why do you think we specify that it is a <strong><em><u>Tabletop</u></em></strong> Role-playing Game?</p><p></p><p>Seriously, I know people are pearl-clutching over the idea of WoTC somehow forcing us all into subscription micro-transaction slavery to their brand, but the idea that DnD will only NOW be designed to be turned digital, when it has multiple video game series over decades of the industry, and INSPIRED some of the biggest video games in the world.... that has to take the cake.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 9409268, member: 6801228"] What are you talking about? [ATTACH type="full"]373352[/ATTACH] This image is directly from the Wizards of the Coast home page: [URL="https://company.wizards.com/en"]Wizards of the Coast[/URL] [ATTACH type="full"]373353[/ATTACH] [ATTACH type="full"]373354[/ATTACH] Skeleton Key and Invoke aren't listing major products on their home website, but a second google search shows: Skeleton Key is new as of 2022 and their game still seems to be in development for a AAA release. Invoke is a new name for an old company, their current games include D&D Dark Alliance from 2021 and a game called Livelock So, okay, you can argue that the Wizard of the Coast Company is not itself legally taxable as a studio, but that would be like arguing that Nintendo doesn't make Pokemon because technically they only own the studio for Game Freak. This is business accounting stuff for taxes and liabilities, not some indication that WoTC who has been behind multiple video games and officially owns multiple studios is somehow only just now "dipping their toes" into the digital marketplace. They have three AAA studios. Again, what are you talking about? Champions of Krynn on floppy disc was a version of DnD from TSR that was an interactive yet limited digital environment. DnD was made into a video game[B][I][U] in 1988[/U][/I][/B]. I played those games. They were DnD, on the computer. So how in the world will the game get damaged by something that happened [B][I][U]36 years ago[/U][/I][/B]?! The game is already "easily transitioned to an interactive digital environment", what the actual heck do you think an RPG video game IS? Do you think people in the videogame industry use the term as some sort of bizarre coincidence? Like, oops, we made a fantasy game using terms like level and experience points, where mages and fighting-men equip weapons and armor, and use potions, and fight floating eyeballs and squid-faced monsters and we call it a Role-playing Game.... but we have never heard of Dungeons and Dragons before? Why do you think we specify that it is a [B][I][U]Tabletop[/U][/I][/B] Role-playing Game? Seriously, I know people are pearl-clutching over the idea of WoTC somehow forcing us all into subscription micro-transaction slavery to their brand, but the idea that DnD will only NOW be designed to be turned digital, when it has multiple video game series over decades of the industry, and INSPIRED some of the biggest video games in the world.... that has to take the cake. [/QUOTE]
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