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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 9409628" data-attributes="member: 6801228"><p>No. They are an oil company AND a make-up company. Companies can be more than one thing. For another example, McDonald's the fast food company... is also a real estate company and a massively successful one. Companies can be in more than one industry.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>All of that is false. They have made video games. They are making a VTT. NONE OF THAT has changed their core product. Which is Magic the Gathering, the physical card game. They also haven't changed Dungeons and Dragons. And if they are a video game company, and they haven't changed DnD even though DnD can be made into a video game anyways (with the limits that come with that) then... why should we suspect a change?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The game <em>DOESN'T</em> play like the old Champions of Krynn video game,<strong><em> that's the point</em></strong>. They did it. They made DnD video games, they have done it for decades.... and the TTRPG has not been soul-sucked into playing like a robot is running the game. Because robots aren't running the game.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And making something from edible materials makes it consumable. But just because someone has made a cake in the shape of lego bricks doesn't mean you should let your kids eat the original lego pieces. If you make a DnD video game, it is a video game, not a tabletop game. But just because you have made a DnD video game doesn't mean that the tabletop game fades away into mist or becomes inaccessible. They can make two different products, companies do that all the time.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>What do you mean "designed with digitization in mind" the game can already be digitized. It happened. Repeatedly. The game is already designed that way, because it inspired video games which built their code to emulate the rules of DnD. What, do you think if WoTC has too many successful video games they will put in rules that prevent people from making up scenarios? You aren't making sense, because your fear has come to pass, but the limitations DIDN'T.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So, you are worried WoTC will abandon DnD to solely make video games. Something they have never done, despite making multiple DnD video games (even by licensing only) for decades. That's all this is? It won't happen. There is no reason for it to happen. Just like there is no reason for WoTC to move to only making board games, since they've made Lords of Waterdeep and Castle Ravenloft.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So, their next step into making DnD a video game, isn't to work with people who made DnD video games, but to fool us all by designing a VTT, get everyone hooked on their VTT, THEN ruin DnD by making it a Video Game RPG instead of a Tabletop RPG...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No, I said that was the only way they could digitize DnD further than it has already been digitized, which somehow doesn't count to you because it was a company owned by WoTC or a company working with WoTC, not WoTC itself which digitized the game.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You keep putting words in my mouth instead of listening and because you aren't listening to me you keep getting confused. </p><p></p><p>DnD as a video game exists. That happened. DnD was digitized and made into a Video Game. DnD as a Tabletop game is different than DnD as a Video Game. But both exist, right now, so there is no logical reason that making DnD video games would affect the Tabletop games. Because it hasn't. WoTC has made DnD as a Video Game, their name was on that product. Multiple times. They still make DnD as a Tabletop game.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Sure, for the purposes of "but if they start designing web pages then they will make ALL BOOKS work like webpages!>!>!" They did design a web page, they are a web page designing company. That does not mean that they will now take their books and make them all look like their webpage.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The etiqutte of making your posts legible and easy to follow. Anyone who wasn't following the conversation you were having line by line with me skipped to the end of your post, they didn't stop to read each quote to see if you were respondinging to someone else, because it all looks the exact same at a quick glance.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 9409628, member: 6801228"] No. They are an oil company AND a make-up company. Companies can be more than one thing. For another example, McDonald's the fast food company... is also a real estate company and a massively successful one. Companies can be in more than one industry. All of that is false. They have made video games. They are making a VTT. NONE OF THAT has changed their core product. Which is Magic the Gathering, the physical card game. They also haven't changed Dungeons and Dragons. And if they are a video game company, and they haven't changed DnD even though DnD can be made into a video game anyways (with the limits that come with that) then... why should we suspect a change? The game [I]DOESN'T[/I] play like the old Champions of Krynn video game,[B][I] that's the point[/I][/B]. They did it. They made DnD video games, they have done it for decades.... and the TTRPG has not been soul-sucked into playing like a robot is running the game. Because robots aren't running the game. And making something from edible materials makes it consumable. But just because someone has made a cake in the shape of lego bricks doesn't mean you should let your kids eat the original lego pieces. If you make a DnD video game, it is a video game, not a tabletop game. But just because you have made a DnD video game doesn't mean that the tabletop game fades away into mist or becomes inaccessible. They can make two different products, companies do that all the time. What do you mean "designed with digitization in mind" the game can already be digitized. It happened. Repeatedly. The game is already designed that way, because it inspired video games which built their code to emulate the rules of DnD. What, do you think if WoTC has too many successful video games they will put in rules that prevent people from making up scenarios? You aren't making sense, because your fear has come to pass, but the limitations DIDN'T. So, you are worried WoTC will abandon DnD to solely make video games. Something they have never done, despite making multiple DnD video games (even by licensing only) for decades. That's all this is? It won't happen. There is no reason for it to happen. Just like there is no reason for WoTC to move to only making board games, since they've made Lords of Waterdeep and Castle Ravenloft. So, their next step into making DnD a video game, isn't to work with people who made DnD video games, but to fool us all by designing a VTT, get everyone hooked on their VTT, THEN ruin DnD by making it a Video Game RPG instead of a Tabletop RPG... No, I said that was the only way they could digitize DnD further than it has already been digitized, which somehow doesn't count to you because it was a company owned by WoTC or a company working with WoTC, not WoTC itself which digitized the game. You keep putting words in my mouth instead of listening and because you aren't listening to me you keep getting confused. DnD as a video game exists. That happened. DnD was digitized and made into a Video Game. DnD as a Tabletop game is different than DnD as a Video Game. But both exist, right now, so there is no logical reason that making DnD video games would affect the Tabletop games. Because it hasn't. WoTC has made DnD as a Video Game, their name was on that product. Multiple times. They still make DnD as a Tabletop game. Sure, for the purposes of "but if they start designing web pages then they will make ALL BOOKS work like webpages!>!>!" They did design a web page, they are a web page designing company. That does not mean that they will now take their books and make them all look like their webpage. The etiqutte of making your posts legible and easy to follow. Anyone who wasn't following the conversation you were having line by line with me skipped to the end of your post, they didn't stop to read each quote to see if you were respondinging to someone else, because it all looks the exact same at a quick glance. [/QUOTE]
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