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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 9411027" data-attributes="member: 6801228"><p>Then why emphasize that they are going to attempt to sell their VTT? Or your constant harping on the gold dragon mini.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.amazon.com/Dungeons-Dragons-Players-Handbook-Rulebook/dp/0786969512/ref=asc_df_0786969512/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=692875362841&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=8725384928021586634&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9015764&hvtargid=pla-2281435177618&psc=1&mcid=4d7df372bcee377b8813014a7a7f2627&hvocijid=8725384928021586634-0786969512-&hvexpln=73&gad_source=1[/URL]</p><p></p><p>No, looks like they are still selling the rules for DnD. I don't see how selling something else changes that. They've been selling Magic the Gathering Arena for years, but they still sell Magic the Gathering physical cards. Why would selling a VTT change the fact that they sell the rules of the game?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And they are mentally incapable of making the VTT match the rules, to the same level that every other VTT on the market matches the rules of DnD? They MUST alter the rules to fit the VTT?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If you don't allow custom creation of options, then you aren't going to have a successful VTT. If you do allow it, you can't stop how people use it. PErsonally, I think you are far too focused on this idea of custom spell animations, like being able to make a pretty flame appear on screen is going to be all it takes to charm people into abandoning their own works of creativity.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>People avoid piracy for two reasons</p><p>1) They feel bad about it</p><p>2) They fear viruses in an unregulated market. </p><p></p><p>Neither of those apply using a long standing brand with its own subscription premium version, for free, instead of paying a lot more for a version that just looks prettier. Again, the garden has to be attractive, and so far its only selling point is "pretty".</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You keep saying "micro-transaction heavy"... you do realize that most of the miniatures and such are going to be free on this VTT, right? And again, you put such a high value on this idea that they are animating spells and monsters, like it is the only thing that is going to matter to people. People who have played a long, long time without those things.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>DO you think it would be made and released if the VTT doesn't come out? Has a product like that EVER been created for DnD in the entire 50 year history of the game?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Like what? I can make my custom Ogre Fighter/Mage and use an animated ogre mini and an animated cloud of daggers spell, so what rules that currently exist are we going to see "less of"?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You keep saying this has nothing to do with me, and while technically true, you also keep dismissing my personal experience dealing with the EXACT scenario you are painting as irrelevant. In fact, you just want a faceless silent majority who are going to be spell-bound by animated effects to the point that they suddenly forget any cool idea they have ever had to limit themselves to only what is animated on the VTT, which isn't even out and you have no idea how it actually will work.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 9411027, member: 6801228"] Then why emphasize that they are going to attempt to sell their VTT? Or your constant harping on the gold dragon mini. [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.amazon.com/Dungeons-Dragons-Players-Handbook-Rulebook/dp/0786969512/ref=asc_df_0786969512/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=692875362841&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=8725384928021586634&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9015764&hvtargid=pla-2281435177618&psc=1&mcid=4d7df372bcee377b8813014a7a7f2627&hvocijid=8725384928021586634-0786969512-&hvexpln=73&gad_source=1[/URL] No, looks like they are still selling the rules for DnD. I don't see how selling something else changes that. They've been selling Magic the Gathering Arena for years, but they still sell Magic the Gathering physical cards. Why would selling a VTT change the fact that they sell the rules of the game? And they are mentally incapable of making the VTT match the rules, to the same level that every other VTT on the market matches the rules of DnD? They MUST alter the rules to fit the VTT? If you don't allow custom creation of options, then you aren't going to have a successful VTT. If you do allow it, you can't stop how people use it. PErsonally, I think you are far too focused on this idea of custom spell animations, like being able to make a pretty flame appear on screen is going to be all it takes to charm people into abandoning their own works of creativity. People avoid piracy for two reasons 1) They feel bad about it 2) They fear viruses in an unregulated market. Neither of those apply using a long standing brand with its own subscription premium version, for free, instead of paying a lot more for a version that just looks prettier. Again, the garden has to be attractive, and so far its only selling point is "pretty". You keep saying "micro-transaction heavy"... you do realize that most of the miniatures and such are going to be free on this VTT, right? And again, you put such a high value on this idea that they are animating spells and monsters, like it is the only thing that is going to matter to people. People who have played a long, long time without those things. DO you think it would be made and released if the VTT doesn't come out? Has a product like that EVER been created for DnD in the entire 50 year history of the game? Like what? I can make my custom Ogre Fighter/Mage and use an animated ogre mini and an animated cloud of daggers spell, so what rules that currently exist are we going to see "less of"? You keep saying this has nothing to do with me, and while technically true, you also keep dismissing my personal experience dealing with the EXACT scenario you are painting as irrelevant. In fact, you just want a faceless silent majority who are going to be spell-bound by animated effects to the point that they suddenly forget any cool idea they have ever had to limit themselves to only what is animated on the VTT, which isn't even out and you have no idea how it actually will work. [/QUOTE]
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