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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 9412521" data-attributes="member: 6801228"><p>You seem to not have a very firm grasp of how moderation on a digital platform works. No. They cannot do what you are proposing. The only possible way to do it would be to prevent all typing of all text into the VTT. Which they can do, but would cause the entire project to die an expensive death.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It comes from effective cost-benefit analysis.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Because you literally have said people will not make custom spells because they won't be able to animate them. So the fact that they cannot animate persuasion checks is relevant, because it is the same exact thing you are discussing.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So, above you asked why it was relevant, now you say precisely. So I've got your opinion pegged it seems. And you seriously think not animating a carrot is going to stop people from giving carrots to horses? Again, no, it will not. That position is nonsense.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No, it has a zero chance of that. How do I know? Because it already isn't animated and people still do it.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>WoTC can have a subscription service and microtransactions. It isn't going to stop this flood of creativity from the community that you seem blind to.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Um... yeah, they use VTTs. Not all of them because some of them are able to meet in-person, but Dungeons & Doodles author DoodlePoodle is part of the ForeverDM actual play, maybe give it a listen and a watch and see how their use of Roll20 hasn't limited their creativity in any possibly measurable way</p><p></p><p>[MEDIA=youtube]1UkD_BJO8t4[/MEDIA]</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Watch the above video then, and tell me how their use of a VTT hurt their ability to have "Creative and unlimited play" </p><p></p><p>Or, if you don't like that one, why not some of these</p><p></p><p>[MEDIA=youtube]list=PLTj75n3v9eTnoxf9sfeJi09jvj7xZ3I0G[/MEDIA]</p><p>[MEDIA=youtube]list=PLTj75n3v9eTmwAdz-83IevujgtinoqQaD[/MEDIA]</p><p>[MEDIA=youtube]list=PLTj75n3v9eTk-1DGtvHn6ekv-2Rr0iZPw[/MEDIA]</p><p>[MEDIA=youtube]list=PLTj75n3v9eTnd9JYzo62ulaQwLS41HC0v[/MEDIA]</p><p><a href="https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLTj75n3v9eTkbCUgWwwaco6sjz6Fjf-xI&si=vsWlWQz7gqBjRIz4" target="_blank">https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLTj75n3v9eTkbCUgWwwaco6sjz6Fjf-xI&si=vsWlWQz7gqBjRIz4</a></p><p></p><p><a href="https://youtu.be/wsHZEwLcz-E?si=kCB-pQLqmEeHslRS" target="_blank">Carbon2185 | The Freelancers - Part 1 | w/ GM DungeonMisterTy | 5e D&D Cyberpunk Actual Play</a></p><p></p><p>Here is someon using Foundry with some homebrewed 5e</p><p><a href="https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLaMDrDIHMitKDCDBMoNL_MYkh1tC35NnA&si=IOiNQ0jEaoqTh9eQ" target="_blank">https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLaMDrDIHMitKDCDBMoNL_MYkh1tC35NnA&si=IOiNQ0jEaoqTh9eQ</a></p><p><a href="https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLaMDrDIHMitJ4-YTTMSQlJzeKDqIIHFxO&si=wSv5kvhU-XoJQKvB" target="_blank">The Wild Beyond the Witchlight</a></p><p><a href="https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLaMDrDIHMitKH2lYop8cvIWc3lXFGVG51&si=4T8b_7olWnlVP_-2" target="_blank">https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLaMDrDIHMitKH2lYop8cvIWc3lXFGVG51&si=4T8b_7olWnlVP_-2</a></p><p></p><p>But please, keep insisting to me that anyone who uses a VTT will have less "creative and unlimited play" because we do not have thousands of hours of content sitting around showing us it literally will not.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 9412521, member: 6801228"] You seem to not have a very firm grasp of how moderation on a digital platform works. No. They cannot do what you are proposing. The only possible way to do it would be to prevent all typing of all text into the VTT. Which they can do, but would cause the entire project to die an expensive death. It comes from effective cost-benefit analysis. Because you literally have said people will not make custom spells because they won't be able to animate them. So the fact that they cannot animate persuasion checks is relevant, because it is the same exact thing you are discussing. So, above you asked why it was relevant, now you say precisely. So I've got your opinion pegged it seems. And you seriously think not animating a carrot is going to stop people from giving carrots to horses? Again, no, it will not. That position is nonsense. No, it has a zero chance of that. How do I know? Because it already isn't animated and people still do it. WoTC can have a subscription service and microtransactions. It isn't going to stop this flood of creativity from the community that you seem blind to. Um... yeah, they use VTTs. Not all of them because some of them are able to meet in-person, but Dungeons & Doodles author DoodlePoodle is part of the ForeverDM actual play, maybe give it a listen and a watch and see how their use of Roll20 hasn't limited their creativity in any possibly measurable way [MEDIA=youtube]1UkD_BJO8t4[/MEDIA] Watch the above video then, and tell me how their use of a VTT hurt their ability to have "Creative and unlimited play" Or, if you don't like that one, why not some of these [MEDIA=youtube]list=PLTj75n3v9eTnoxf9sfeJi09jvj7xZ3I0G[/MEDIA] [MEDIA=youtube]list=PLTj75n3v9eTmwAdz-83IevujgtinoqQaD[/MEDIA] [MEDIA=youtube]list=PLTj75n3v9eTk-1DGtvHn6ekv-2Rr0iZPw[/MEDIA] [MEDIA=youtube]list=PLTj75n3v9eTnd9JYzo62ulaQwLS41HC0v[/MEDIA] [URL]https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLTj75n3v9eTkbCUgWwwaco6sjz6Fjf-xI&si=vsWlWQz7gqBjRIz4[/URL] [URL="https://youtu.be/wsHZEwLcz-E?si=kCB-pQLqmEeHslRS"]Carbon2185 | The Freelancers - Part 1 | w/ GM DungeonMisterTy | 5e D&D Cyberpunk Actual Play[/URL] Here is someon using Foundry with some homebrewed 5e [URL]https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLaMDrDIHMitKDCDBMoNL_MYkh1tC35NnA&si=IOiNQ0jEaoqTh9eQ[/URL] [URL="https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLaMDrDIHMitJ4-YTTMSQlJzeKDqIIHFxO&si=wSv5kvhU-XoJQKvB"]The Wild Beyond the Witchlight[/URL] [URL]https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLaMDrDIHMitKH2lYop8cvIWc3lXFGVG51&si=4T8b_7olWnlVP_-2[/URL] But please, keep insisting to me that anyone who uses a VTT will have less "creative and unlimited play" because we do not have thousands of hours of content sitting around showing us it literally will not. [/QUOTE]
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