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D&D Historian Ben Riggs says the OGL fiasco was Chris Cocks idea.
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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 9413817" data-attributes="member: 6801228"><p>Really, cause I've seen a lot of posters who seem like they wouldn't trust WoTC if they handed them a check for $10,000 in this thread as well.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, I am very aware of how you break up everything I say into small chunks. No, I will not be taking cues from that.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So giving a copy to one of their most vocal critics (who at least never delved into full on hate-filled rants against them) is showing how they don't maintain relationships with people who "don't care for them" but they are also quite willing to work with the community to push their goals despite what those people have said about them in the past? </p><p></p><p>They can't both be cutting off anyone who says anything bad about them, and also working with people who have said bad things about them.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You keep saying these things, that WoTC sees their customers as barriers, that they are desperate for control, and yet you lack proof, beyond gesturing widely to everything they have ever done (except the parts that show they don't do or think those things) and saying "But see! The Pinkertons that one time for Magic the Gathering! and Undermonetization!" </p><p></p><p>Yet every major creator they have worked with, has been critical of them and their actions. And they still work with them. And that means nothing to you, because you are convinced that they are evil.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Ah yes, the completely free character sheets, how could I forget them making money off of them. I never denied that they would be capable of using both, just that it wouldn't be required to get the VTT to continue using DDB</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No it isn't.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 9413817, member: 6801228"] Really, cause I've seen a lot of posters who seem like they wouldn't trust WoTC if they handed them a check for $10,000 in this thread as well. Yes, I am very aware of how you break up everything I say into small chunks. No, I will not be taking cues from that. So giving a copy to one of their most vocal critics (who at least never delved into full on hate-filled rants against them) is showing how they don't maintain relationships with people who "don't care for them" but they are also quite willing to work with the community to push their goals despite what those people have said about them in the past? They can't both be cutting off anyone who says anything bad about them, and also working with people who have said bad things about them. You keep saying these things, that WoTC sees their customers as barriers, that they are desperate for control, and yet you lack proof, beyond gesturing widely to everything they have ever done (except the parts that show they don't do or think those things) and saying "But see! The Pinkertons that one time for Magic the Gathering! and Undermonetization!" Yet every major creator they have worked with, has been critical of them and their actions. And they still work with them. And that means nothing to you, because you are convinced that they are evil. Ah yes, the completely free character sheets, how could I forget them making money off of them. I never denied that they would be capable of using both, just that it wouldn't be required to get the VTT to continue using DDB No it isn't. [/QUOTE]
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