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<blockquote data-quote="Voadam" data-source="post: 1944118" data-attributes="member: 2209">As a secret santa I got my brother in law this year. He asked for a family game. There is him, my sister (who likes Andrew scott card novels), and my two nieces (12 and 14 who like the hobbit).I wanted to get him D&amp;D so they could play a bunch, but I didn't want just levels 1-3 with pre-done characters and almost no options. I wanted the system with some options so the basic versions as I understand them didn't meet my desired needs. I could have gotten the three core books but our secret santa system runs on a set budget range so $50 would not cover all three books unless I hunted down used copies which I didn't have time to do.Instead I got him Axis and Allies and he was quite happy with it. But I wish I had a single book system to get them for D&amp;D that was comparable to the d20 Wheel of Time book which has multiple classes, races, a magic system, monsters, combat, advancement, feats and skills, equipment, and a whole setting with gazetteer and world history/cosmology.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Voadam, post: 1944118, member: 2209"] As a secret santa I got my brother in law this year. He asked for a family game. There is him, my sister (who likes Andrew scott card novels), and my two nieces (12 and 14 who like the hobbit). I wanted to get him D&D so they could play a bunch, but I didn't want just levels 1-3 with pre-done characters and almost no options. I wanted the system with some options so the basic versions as I understand them didn't meet my desired needs. I could have gotten the three core books but our secret santa system runs on a set budget range so $50 would not cover all three books unless I hunted down used copies which I didn't have time to do. Instead I got him Axis and Allies and he was quite happy with it. But I wish I had a single book system to get them for D&D that was comparable to the d20 Wheel of Time book which has multiple classes, races, a magic system, monsters, combat, advancement, feats and skills, equipment, and a whole setting with gazetteer and world history/cosmology. [/QUOTE]

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