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<blockquote data-quote="Jeremy Ackerman-Yost" data-source="post: 2475265" data-attributes="member: 4720">So, what is it about the context that makes one game &quot;higher-powered&quot; than another?&nbsp; And (to actually keep this somewhat on topic rather than further derailing it)&nbsp; How does Iron Lore fit on that curve?&nbsp; If Mearls succeeded, the only objective standard we have (what the PCs can or can't kill within the context of the rules) seems to say that Iron Lore is &quot;equivalently-powered&quot; to vanilla D&amp;D.&nbsp; Yet different people seem to feel very differently about how &quot;powered&quot; IL actually is.&nbsp;&nbsp; :\ HellHound, do you see why I think this is an intellectually devoid contruct yet?&nbsp; We have no operational definition whatsoever!&nbsp; It's one of the most undefined, subjective, bloody-hindering-awkward phrases thrown around in gaming circles today.Your most recent response to me included this: &quot;advance in power without getting incredibly powerful.&quot;&nbsp; Now that is a clearer phrase than &quot;low-powered game.&quot;&nbsp; But still, I can take that to mean that you would prefer a game with a linear power curve rather than an exponential one, OR you simply don't like the setting assumptions that D&amp;D in particular requires at its high levels, OR any one of a half dozen other things without thinking very hard.I don't mean to attack you specifically on this point (I did, after all, start out being needlessly rude to someone else entirely), but you've made yourself an obvious target.&nbsp; Maybe I'm the one missing something, but I really think this phrase you are championing is more a hindrance than a help.&nbsp; I am, however, always happy to be proven wrong, as it means I've learned something.&nbsp; Prove to me that this phrase is useful, and I will happily buy you a beer (or a Snickers bar, or whatever suits your personal preferences for recreational consumption, I'm not judgmental that way <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> )</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Jeremy Ackerman-Yost, post: 2475265, member: 4720"] So, what is it about the context that makes one game "higher-powered" than another? And (to actually keep this somewhat on topic rather than further derailing it) How does Iron Lore fit on that curve? If Mearls succeeded, the only objective standard we have (what the PCs can or can't kill within the context of the rules) seems to say that Iron Lore is "equivalently-powered" to vanilla D&D. Yet different people seem to feel very differently about how "powered" IL actually is. :\ HellHound, do you see why I think this is an intellectually devoid contruct yet? We have no operational definition whatsoever! It's one of the most undefined, subjective, bloody-hindering-awkward phrases thrown around in gaming circles today. Your most recent response to me included this: "advance in power without getting incredibly powerful." Now that is a clearer phrase than "low-powered game." But still, I can take that to mean that you would prefer a game with a linear power curve rather than an exponential one, OR you simply don't like the setting assumptions that D&D in particular requires at its high levels, OR any one of a half dozen other things without thinking very hard. I don't mean to attack you specifically on this point (I did, after all, start out being needlessly rude to someone else entirely), but you've made yourself an obvious target. Maybe I'm the one missing something, but I really think this phrase you are championing is more a hindrance than a help. I am, however, always happy to be proven wrong, as it means I've learned something. Prove to me that this phrase is useful, and I will happily buy you a beer (or a Snickers bar, or whatever suits your personal preferences for recreational consumption, I'm not judgmental [i]that[/i] way :) ) [/QUOTE]

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