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<blockquote data-quote="Quickleaf" data-source="post: 9354596" data-attributes="member: 20323">My hypothesis is that the more abstract / less cool details there are (eg. For lockpicking and doors), the more it becomes incumbent on the GM / Adventure to inspire exploration, rather than the it being baked into the game.Yeah, if we start to get too far afield from the topic of skill adjudication, cantrips, magic parity, and such, we should either move the side-conversation or politely bow out.Where I think it's relevant is that [USER=7042567]@MuhVerisimilitude[/USER] 's question/idea is framed not only with certain rules infrastructure of 5e assumed as given, but also – if I'm reading in between the lines correctly – a certain culture of play.I know discussing culture is very subjective because in actuality it's multiple micro-cultures within the RPG community, all with varying shades of difference. And I also think it's important not to exclusively focus on drawbacks – there are several things that imo Modern D&amp;D Culture does much better than the OSR: power fantasy/feeing like a hero, deeper character development &amp; attention to motivations (more interesting to me than “get the gold”), and a sense of narrative arc / hero's journey are the big ones.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Quickleaf, post: 9354596, member: 20323"] My hypothesis is that the more abstract / less cool details there are (eg. For lockpicking and doors), the more it becomes incumbent on the GM / Adventure to inspire exploration, rather than the it being baked into the game. Yeah, if we start to get too far afield from the topic of skill adjudication, cantrips, magic parity, and such, we should either move the side-conversation or politely bow out. Where I think it's relevant is that [USER=7042567]@MuhVerisimilitude[/USER] 's question/idea is framed not only with certain rules infrastructure of 5e assumed as given, but also – if I'm reading in between the lines correctly – a certain culture of play. I know discussing culture is very subjective because in actuality it's multiple micro-cultures within the RPG community, all with varying shades of difference. And I also think it's important not to exclusively focus on drawbacks – there are several things that imo Modern D&D Culture does much better than the OSR: power fantasy/feeing like a hero, deeper character development & attention to motivations (more interesting to me than “get the gold”), and a sense of narrative arc / hero's journey are the big ones. [/QUOTE]

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