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Message: <blockquote data-quote="sithramir" data-source="post: 916083" data-attributes="member: 12183">interestingI keep hearing the people who support "low magic" saying how dragonblade is stero-typing low magic yet you guys are stereotyping much much more.    Basically I don't see what a low magic game can have that a high magic game can't have other than LACK of magic and LACK of more options. Don't give me some "well i want my barbarian to need to climb that wall and not fly over it". Who said he's not going to in a high magic game? Who said even if he has the ability to fly he still doesn't climb? All I hear is you trying to put some block of "since my guy has magic he's gonna use it" when thats the players choice. The fact is in the lower magic that player doesn't have that choice. I'm not saying low magic is bad in anyway either i'm just saying i've seen nothign you guys have said about low magic that can't be exactly the same in high magic.    You guys are sterotyping high magic in that "because its there everyone has everything". Well maybe theres a huge antimagic shell placed upon a vampire lords castle and your pc's have to use only their wits. Or maybe they have a +5 sword but not a lot else. Now you say well that's exactly what they have to do in low magic. THe difference I see is that they do have other options at other times.   You also say that in high powered magic the fighter types lose out to the wizards. Well funny that i think it quite the opposite. At decent levels the wizard in a low magic game RULES the game. Your fighter with his non to low magic sword goes into the fray. The wizard say why? I have fireballs and ice storms and disintegrates to use. You are obsolete. Oh that huge warlord. Eat finger of death. In high magic games I see its the high magic that allows the game to stay more balanced. Yeah the fighter has some magic too. No he's not giving up his role playing by having some items or using magic sometimes he's just able to be on a level playing field. That mage couldn't hit the fighter with a lightning bolt because he used a whistle of silence or something that the wizard was unprepared for. Well without that whistle he was just another fighter that the wizard slayed on a day to day basis. Maybe you say well the fighter has to use his wits to be able to outbeat the wizard. Well the wizard will have the same wits and the fact is no fighter is gonna beat a wizard that is flying with prot from arrows on while shooting at him with lightning bolts without some kind of help. Hence why magic is in the game!   Oh and the article above me on the difference between raiders of the lost arc and x-men you should go watch x-men 2. They fight a guy who isn't a mutant who's using some mutants as his tools but who still isn't a guy with any magic. The fact is that they had to use their wits to beat him for instance having the shape changer impersonate someone else to get into the complex. This just goes to show how even with magic not everythign is solved. The problem is still there and they still need to find a solution. Its just a bit more complex. I'm not demeaning indiana jones ,in fact I love the movies .But you're comparing a guy in a typical movie where bullets never hit any of the good guys and he uses his wits to save the day to a movie movie aimed at kids where the antagonists still had to use their wits just happened to be in a different world. If you want to have some fun try playing in a high magic game with a character that doesn't use magic and show them how your character wits are all you need. The same as in a low magic other than much harder and much more "awe-inspiring".</blockquote>

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