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<blockquote data-quote="Frawan" data-source="post: 4148538" data-attributes="member: 57527"><p>Greetings</p><p></p><p>What I want to bring up in this thread might have been discussed elsewhere, but I would like to bring together a few threads concerning Paizo, Wizards, 4th edition and the OGL.</p><p></p><p>I was one of those old gamers, that had been away from the game for some time, and was quite excited when 4th edition was annouced. Initially everything was new and fresh and we a got a few good teasers and previews. Now that we are approaching release of 4th edition I am starting to wonder if Wizards are simply killing D&D as the clock ticks. </p><p></p><p>There are several factors that leads me to say this: First off a lot of the new stuff such as Gleemax and DnDInsider didn't really live up to my (and a lot of other peoples and publishers) expectations. Neither did the previews that people have gotten of the online-tools.</p><p></p><p>That I guess is something I can live with, as there can always be room for improvements.</p><p></p><p>The next big failure in the launching of 4th edition was/is the annoucement of a GSL due to be out in november, which no publisher has yet seen. Not even a rules-preview for "close 3rd party publishers" as with 3rd edition.</p><p></p><p>This led to the third big blow for Wizards: The Paizo annoucement of their own RPG / 3.5 compatible.</p><p></p><p>Now ususally when you <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> up, or big things such as <em>the</em> 3rd party publisher not going 4th ed you need to do something. The <em>LEAST</em> Wizards could do is to <em>communicate</em> with the fans. Instead we get a deadly silence, making things even worse. No reassurances or any kind of comments on how 4th will be launched when no 3rd party publishers will be ready. Neither any comments on the GSL and what is happening. </p><p></p><p>Having followed the MMO-business for a couple of years I would say that in MMO language long silence from a developer almost always means that someone is pulling the plug. Even if a game (in this case the GSL) gets delayed 1-2 years the least the developer can do is communicate. By each hour that Wizards keeps silent, they frustrate and alienate possible 4th ed. players. Initially contact was good and Wiz-VIPs regularly showed up on various boards. Now we get <em>nothing</em>. While Paizo is actively communicates with their fans on a regular basis, Wizards is completely silent about major events that are of importance to the 4th edition. Who cares about crunch and fluff, when the game you love is heading for an unsecure future, and other parties (Paizo) picking up where Wizards left the fans hanging. We as gamers are not stupid - we are not only interested in getting the newest releases from Wizards, no questions asked. As "modern" consumers we want to know what is going on behind the curtain...</p><p></p><p>So what do you guys think? Is my analysis that Wizards is killing off D&D by not communicating at all correct?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Frawan, post: 4148538, member: 57527"] Greetings What I want to bring up in this thread might have been discussed elsewhere, but I would like to bring together a few threads concerning Paizo, Wizards, 4th edition and the OGL. I was one of those old gamers, that had been away from the game for some time, and was quite excited when 4th edition was annouced. Initially everything was new and fresh and we a got a few good teasers and previews. Now that we are approaching release of 4th edition I am starting to wonder if Wizards are simply killing D&D as the clock ticks. There are several factors that leads me to say this: First off a lot of the new stuff such as Gleemax and DnDInsider didn't really live up to my (and a lot of other peoples and publishers) expectations. Neither did the previews that people have gotten of the online-tools. That I guess is something I can live with, as there can always be room for improvements. The next big failure in the launching of 4th edition was/is the annoucement of a GSL due to be out in november, which no publisher has yet seen. Not even a rules-preview for "close 3rd party publishers" as with 3rd edition. This led to the third big blow for Wizards: The Paizo annoucement of their own RPG / 3.5 compatible. Now ususally when you :):):):) up, or big things such as [I]the[/I] 3rd party publisher not going 4th ed you need to do something. The [I]LEAST[/I] Wizards could do is to [I]communicate[/I] with the fans. Instead we get a deadly silence, making things even worse. No reassurances or any kind of comments on how 4th will be launched when no 3rd party publishers will be ready. Neither any comments on the GSL and what is happening. Having followed the MMO-business for a couple of years I would say that in MMO language long silence from a developer almost always means that someone is pulling the plug. Even if a game (in this case the GSL) gets delayed 1-2 years the least the developer can do is communicate. By each hour that Wizards keeps silent, they frustrate and alienate possible 4th ed. players. Initially contact was good and Wiz-VIPs regularly showed up on various boards. Now we get [I]nothing[/I]. While Paizo is actively communicates with their fans on a regular basis, Wizards is completely silent about major events that are of importance to the 4th edition. Who cares about crunch and fluff, when the game you love is heading for an unsecure future, and other parties (Paizo) picking up where Wizards left the fans hanging. We as gamers are not stupid - we are not only interested in getting the newest releases from Wizards, no questions asked. As "modern" consumers we want to know what is going on behind the curtain... So what do you guys think? Is my analysis that Wizards is killing off D&D by not communicating at all correct? [/QUOTE]
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