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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Zil" data-source="post: 4148954" data-attributes="member: 20004">I have to say I'm really surprised with the sorry state of DDI and Gleemax.   I was more than a bit skeptical about DDI when ti was first announced, but I never expected them to be in this dismal shape so close to the actual release of 4E.   Gleemax is still as awful and ugly as ever and DDI is nothing I'd ever want to pay for.  They should have been providing at least a few solid months of good quality to encourage people to "buy in" when they start charging for DDI.  Instead, we get.. something very forgettable.  I almost never check either on a regular basis anymore.   Someone is really dropping the ball big time with this.Something again is wrong here as you say.  How can they be so late on this item as well as DDI?   What _is_ working right for them on these peripheral issues?   It really feels like there is some kind of internal battle going within WoTC/hasbro  - that or Hasbro legal is just giving this a low priority and is screwing up things inadvertently.  It shouldn't take this long.  And if this is normal, than WoTC had no business promising something by November and letting that deadline slip so much.  The optics are so bad.This was pretty inevitable after the screwup with the GSL/OGL.   Paizo and other companies can't afford to sit around doing nothing waiting.    Someone was going to do this.   Heck, if the GSL gets killed completely, then all the major third party publishers have a big decision to make as well:  Continue working with 3.x, some new OGL based stuff, fold up shop, or go on to something completely different.It is surprising, yes, that no one is giving any substantive information to the third party publishers.  It's not the way to engage in a partnership.  Either someone is really dropping the ball again, or someone has decided they don't need the third party publishers.Well, I don't think Wizards is intentionally trying to kill off D&D.   We don't really know what they heck is going on over there.  All we know for sure is that they are really dropping the ball on DDI/Gleemax and the GSL.   4E will still roll out on schedule with or without the GSL and third party support.   It will roll out  with or without a working DDI experience.  Sure, there are some people are likely to give it a pass because of these problems.  However, even more are likely to decide they just don't like where the game is going and decide to stay with Pathfinder or other 3.x/OGL derived games.   But there will be enough rabid "gotta have the latest version of D&D" folks out there to make this a success on some level - at least in the short term.  I actually feel a bit bad for the 4E designers.  Whether or not I personally like what I've been hearing about 4E (I've heard enough to be very worried), I think that they deserved a much more solid release and that the persons responsible for the GSL, the web components, and communication have done the development  team, and D&D 4E in general,  a great disservice.</blockquote>

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