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Message: <blockquote data-quote="keterys" data-source="post: 5904962" data-attributes="member: 43019">All versions of D&D so far had steep scaling... 4e was just extra explicit about it.But when you'd pick up a shovel full of d20s and have the 30 kobolds shoot at the PCs looking for 20s... yep, that was sharp scaling all right <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Even in terms of hit points, in a lot of cases it's just relative. My high level AD&D PC did like 20 dmg a round and had like 80 hp, whereas my high level 4e PC does like 50 dmg a round and has the equivalent of 200 hp. (Little more complicated than that, in both cases, but eh)</blockquote>