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<blockquote data-quote="Steampunkette" data-source="post: 9740106" data-attributes="member: 6796468"><p>The Handlebar Moustache's earliest appearance is in art from Iron Age Celts (the iron age of course being 1500 to 500 BCE).</p><p></p><p>But even if the handlebar moustache was "Victorian" that still doesn't make it Victoriana. It just means that the artist (and whomever commissioned the art) doesn't know, or just doesn't care, about ensuring perfect "Medieval" authenticity. Which is good. Because D&D has -NEVER- been about perfect medieval authenticity.</p><p></p><p>With clothing styles ranging from the Iron Age to the late 1700s, Full Plate and the use of Slings being contemporary to each other, and the presence of FREAKING DRAGONS AND MAGIC it very much isn't, nor has it ever been, medieval fantasy.</p><p></p><p>Of course, neither was the Lord of the Rings, in truth. Which combined concepts from many different eras together in order to battle against machination and industry.</p><p></p><p>D&D is not "Closer" to Steampunk than it is to Lord of the Rings. It's its own thing that takes bits and bobs from other genres and concepts and periods that it likes and mashes them all together into something new. It's Kitchen Sink or Katamari Damacy Fantasy.</p><p></p><p>Not Steampunk.</p><p></p><p>Having a handful of Victorian-Era items or fashions in it presented as contemporary to Iron and Dark Age and Renaissance technologies, social structures, and fashions doesn't make it Steampunk.</p><p></p><p>I think the issue is you're approaching it wanting one thing and getting a whole lot of "Else" and then trying to square the circle.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Steampunkette, post: 9740106, member: 6796468"] The Handlebar Moustache's earliest appearance is in art from Iron Age Celts (the iron age of course being 1500 to 500 BCE). But even if the handlebar moustache was "Victorian" that still doesn't make it Victoriana. It just means that the artist (and whomever commissioned the art) doesn't know, or just doesn't care, about ensuring perfect "Medieval" authenticity. Which is good. Because D&D has -NEVER- been about perfect medieval authenticity. With clothing styles ranging from the Iron Age to the late 1700s, Full Plate and the use of Slings being contemporary to each other, and the presence of FREAKING DRAGONS AND MAGIC it very much isn't, nor has it ever been, medieval fantasy. Of course, neither was the Lord of the Rings, in truth. Which combined concepts from many different eras together in order to battle against machination and industry. D&D is not "Closer" to Steampunk than it is to Lord of the Rings. It's its own thing that takes bits and bobs from other genres and concepts and periods that it likes and mashes them all together into something new. It's Kitchen Sink or Katamari Damacy Fantasy. Not Steampunk. Having a handful of Victorian-Era items or fashions in it presented as contemporary to Iron and Dark Age and Renaissance technologies, social structures, and fashions doesn't make it Steampunk. I think the issue is you're approaching it wanting one thing and getting a whole lot of "Else" and then trying to square the circle. [/QUOTE]
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