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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9740187" data-attributes="member: 18">D&D has never been "medieval fantasy", so it can scarcely "no longer apply", I would argue.I mean, what setting is that true in? Forgotten Realms varies from stone-age to near-industrial, but the "main areas" are basically 1500s/1600s in tech except for guns (and even those are like 1300s/1400s). Dragonlance is... I don't know what to call that mish-mash but medieval it ain't - that's Anaslon. Taladas is solidly Dark Ages, pre-medieval (apart from Baltch). Greyhawk varies like the FR, but perhaps more so. It does average closer to medieval I guess. Mystara is all over the place, including up to having nuclear reactors! Dark Sun is basically iron age but with a lot of neolithic tech. Spelljammer is "Age of Sail" more or less, 1600s/1700s. Eberron is quasi-1910s or so (minus guns). Planescape is timeless but has a 1700s/1800s vibe.I could go on. D&D has never really been "medieval fantasy".Of your points, none of them are really true/relevant in any setting except the Eberron.Also you really underestimate how fast even pretty old locomotives are. A 2-person carpet of flying is 60ft/round. So 10ft/1 seconds.My brother in Gond, that's 7mph. That's a moderate jog.How slow do you think trains are? In the 1860s, say, on straight and level track, most trains hit 60mph, so nearly 10x as fast as a carpet of flying.What about the one-person faster carpet you say? Okay, that' 80ft/round. So about what 9-10mph. Most people could out-sprint that without problems. Aladdin it ain't.So no, they neither rival nor even come close to rivalling a locomotive. Even in the 1830s the average speed of a locomotive was 12-20mph, so they'd not even rival that unless we double their speed, and those were often capable of 40mph or even more in the right conditions.</blockquote>

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