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<blockquote data-quote="DND_Reborn" data-source="post: 8606401" data-attributes="member: 6987520">While I understand and appreciate your point, a lot depends on the RPG and how the &quot;fantasy works&quot;.For instance, dragons in AD&amp;D where NOT (according to the MM1) &quot;8-story monsters&quot;. For instance:[ATTACH=full]155420[/ATTACH]At large, is 48' long -- so not really 8-stories.Also, the &quot;melt rock walls&quot;.... Why melting rock walls? If your fantasy indicates dragon breath is roughly 1500 C or hotter, then sure, but it is also then melting steel-- so any PC in armor is (literally) toast. FWIW steel will soften and weaken at much lower temperatures (about 600 C IIRC).For myself, I never imagined dragonfire to be that hot, but I know other people certainly might.It isn't hard (for me at least) to reconcile powerful magic and fantasy creatures in a game which (otherwise) more simulates real-world use of armor and weapons, capabilities of creatures, and lethality.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DND_Reborn, post: 8606401, member: 6987520"] While I understand and appreciate your point, a lot depends on the RPG and how the "fantasy works". For instance, dragons in AD&D where [I]NOT[/I] (according to the MM1) "8-story monsters". For instance: [ATTACH type="full" width="468px"]155420[/ATTACH] At large, is 48' long -- so not really 8-stories. Also, the "melt rock walls".... Why melting rock walls? If your fantasy indicates dragon breath is roughly 1500 C or hotter, then sure, but it is also then melting steel-- so any PC in armor is (literally) toast. FWIW steel will soften and weaken at much lower temperatures (about 600 C IIRC). For myself, I never imagined dragonfire to be [I]that[/I] hot, but I know other people certainly might. It isn't hard (for me at least) to reconcile powerful magic and fantasy creatures in a game which (otherwise) more simulates real-world use of armor and weapons, capabilities of creatures, and lethality. [/QUOTE]

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