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<blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 8606469" data-attributes="member: 42582">[USER=6987520]@DND_Reborn[/USER]I have a lot of experience playing and Gming Rolemaster: it is pretty rules-heavy, but has what you're looking for. A semi-retroclone has also come out fairly recently - <a href="https://www.vsdarkmaster.com/" target="_blank">Against the Darkmaster – The Classic Tabletop RPG Game of Fantasy Adventure</a> - and some people on rpg.net seem to like it - <a href="https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/thoughts-on-against-the-darkmaster.877603/" target="_blank">Thoughts on Against the Darkmaster?</a>HARP is a lighter version of RM - I'd say it's about the same heaviness as 3E D&amp;D.People upthread have mentioned C&amp;S, Harn and RueQuest. I think there is a fairly recent version of RQ called Mythras. My RQ knowledge is about 30 years out of date as far as editions go, but I can say that it is lighter than RM, and probably a bit lighter than HARP. Personally I prefer RM to RQ - happy to explain why if you like.If anyone knows where to get a copy of TRoS at a reasonable price, please point me towards it!But anyway, TRoS is ultimately a story/character-driven game sitting on top of a RQ-ish chassis.Jacob Norwood, who designed TRoS, writes the foreword to more recent versions of Burning Wheel, which is my favourite FRPG and which I would cheerfully recommend to anyone who is looking for visceral, character-driven RPGing with a strong simulationist chassis as the starting point (but not really the focus).Torchbearer is another FRPG that is more simulationist than D&amp;D, but in overall feel of gameplay (and as the name suggests) closer to Moldvay Basic or classic AD&amp;D than to RQ or BW.EDIT: There's also Pendragon, which has its 6th ed currently in development.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="pemerton, post: 8606469, member: 42582"] [USER=6987520]@DND_Reborn[/USER] I have a lot of experience playing and Gming Rolemaster: it is pretty rules-heavy, but has what you're looking for. A semi-retroclone has also come out fairly recently - [URL="https://www.vsdarkmaster.com/"]Against the Darkmaster – The Classic Tabletop RPG Game of Fantasy Adventure[/URL] - and some people on rpg.net seem to like it - [URL="https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/thoughts-on-against-the-darkmaster.877603/"]Thoughts on Against the Darkmaster?[/URL] HARP is a lighter version of RM - I'd say it's about the same heaviness as 3E D&D. People upthread have mentioned C&S, Harn and RueQuest. I think there is a fairly recent version of RQ called Mythras. My RQ knowledge is about 30 years out of date as far as editions go, but I can say that it is lighter than RM, and probably a bit lighter than HARP. Personally I prefer RM to RQ - happy to explain why if you like. If anyone knows where to get a copy of TRoS at a reasonable price, please point me towards it! But anyway, TRoS is ultimately a story/character-driven game sitting on top of a RQ-ish chassis. Jacob Norwood, who designed TRoS, writes the foreword to more recent versions of Burning Wheel, which is my favourite FRPG and which I would cheerfully recommend to anyone who is looking for visceral, character-driven RPGing with a strong simulationist chassis as the starting point (but not really the focus). Torchbearer is another FRPG that is more simulationist than D&D, but in overall feel of gameplay (and as the name suggests) closer to Moldvay Basic or classic AD&D than to RQ or BW. EDIT: There's also Pendragon, which has its 6th ed currently in development. [/QUOTE]

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