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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 8609403" data-attributes="member: 22779">It was not my intent to relitigate edition warring.&nbsp; That's ancient history, mostly, and it's just not worth it.But, the funny thing is, so many of those ENORMOUS issues in 4e are passed in 5e without comment.&nbsp; Yet we STILL have people banging the simulation drum.&nbsp; As if 5e is somehow more simulationist.&nbsp; I'll give [USER=6747251]@Micah Sweet[/USER] mad props here for consistency.&nbsp; He (sorry, presuming the pronoun) knows what he wants and he's more than willing to go and get it.&nbsp; HUGELY impressive.&nbsp; The hobby would be so much healthier if people were more like that.&nbsp; Play what you want to play.&nbsp; If what you're playing isn't fitting with what you want, find something that does.&nbsp; It's not like there aren't all sorts of solutions out there.&nbsp; Even in this thread, asking for a more simulationist style game should NEVER get the answer D&amp;D.&nbsp; Yet we see people still trying desperately to cling onto the idea that D&amp;D was ever about simulating anything.&nbsp; It never did.&nbsp; The only difference is that now, we no longer have to pretend that it did at some point.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 8609403, member: 22779"] It was not my intent to relitigate edition warring. That's ancient history, mostly, and it's just not worth it. But, the funny thing is, so many of those ENORMOUS issues in 4e are passed in 5e without comment. Yet we STILL have people banging the simulation drum. As if 5e is somehow more simulationist. I'll give [USER=6747251]@Micah Sweet[/USER] mad props here for consistency. He (sorry, presuming the pronoun) knows what he wants and he's more than willing to go and get it. HUGELY impressive. The hobby would be so much healthier if people were more like that. Play what you want to play. If what you're playing isn't fitting with what you want, find something that does. It's not like there aren't all sorts of solutions out there. Even in this thread, asking for a more simulationist style game should NEVER get the answer D&D. Yet we see people still trying desperately to cling onto the idea that D&D was ever about simulating anything. It never did. The only difference is that now, we no longer have to pretend that it did at some point. [/QUOTE]

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