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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 8615345" data-attributes="member: 22779">And, again, this only applies on a hit that drops you to zero HP.&nbsp; And, even then, any narration can be invalidated in the next round - a player could roll a 20 and gain 1 HP, allowing the PC to act again.&nbsp; So, while you could say that the ant bites you so hard that you drop, and you are dying... oh wait... nope you weren't dying actually because you immediately stand up again - maybe not even six seconds later, it might actually be the next action after the ant's bite, depending on the initiative order.But, that does rather ignore the fifteen previous attacks that didn't drop the PC to zero HP that we cannot determine anything about.I just don't get this ardent defense of why D&amp;D has to be a sim game.&nbsp; It was never intended as such, never pretended to be one.&nbsp; Saying D&amp;D is mostly gamist is pretty much like saying rain is wet.&nbsp; Even saying, &quot;Oh, well, it's a 3 out of 10 on the sim scale&quot; is basically saying that it's not a sim based game.The only reason I can see to insist that D&amp;D is a sim game is to ensure ammunition in case someone wants to suggest new mechanics for the game.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 8615345, member: 22779"] And, again, this only applies on a hit that drops you to zero HP. And, even then, any narration can be invalidated in the next round - a player could roll a 20 and gain 1 HP, allowing the PC to act again. So, while you could say that the ant bites you so hard that you drop, and you are dying... oh wait... nope you weren't dying actually because you immediately stand up again - maybe not even six seconds later, it might actually be the next action after the ant's bite, depending on the initiative order. But, that does rather ignore the fifteen previous attacks that didn't drop the PC to zero HP that we cannot determine anything about. I just don't get this ardent defense of why D&D has to be a sim game. It was never intended as such, never pretended to be one. Saying D&D is mostly gamist is pretty much like saying rain is wet. Even saying, "Oh, well, it's a 3 out of 10 on the sim scale" is basically saying that it's not a sim based game. The only reason I can see to insist that D&D is a sim game is to ensure ammunition in case someone wants to suggest new mechanics for the game. [/QUOTE]

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