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<blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 8616366" data-attributes="member: 42582">RM and RQ both handle the difference between being tough and being quick.&nbsp; There are various ways a wound/vitality system could do that too, if it was desired.No one is discussing arbitrariness, as far as I can tell. The discussion is about simulation.How can a PC who is at 25% or less of their hit points be critically injured, given that they can still act without any penalty, they are perhaps able to be healed to full health by the simplest of healing magic (eg a first level PC can normally be healed from 2 hp to 8 hp by a Cure Wounds spell), and even if they do fall unconscious, they have a real chance of being up and about again under their own steam, and can be restored to consciousness within a few seconds by an untrained person using 100-odd grams of healing supplies?No one is disputing that you can tell the person was bitten to death by an ant. But not until the end of the combat. As your own table shows: if a character drops from 20 to 4 hit points in a fight, but walks away and then heals up by spending (let's say) their Second Wind plus a couple of hit dice, it's obvious that they were not critically injured, whether by ant bites or sword blows or anything else. They were just tired and sore!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="pemerton, post: 8616366, member: 42582"] RM and RQ both handle the difference between [i]being tough[/i] and [i]being quick[/i]. There are various ways a wound/vitality system could do that too, if it was desired. No one is discussing arbitrariness, as far as I can tell. The discussion is about simulation. How can a PC who is at 25% or less of their hit points be [i]critically injured[/i], given that they can still act without any penalty, they are perhaps able to be healed to full health by the simplest of healing magic (eg a first level PC can normally be healed from 2 hp to 8 hp by a Cure Wounds spell), and even if they do fall unconscious, they have a real chance of being up and about again under their own steam, and can be restored to consciousness within a few seconds by an untrained person using 100-odd grams of healing supplies? No one is disputing that you can tell the person was bitten to death by an ant. [i]But not until the end of the combat[/i]. As your own table shows: if a character drops from 20 to 4 hit points in a fight, but walks away and then heals up by spending (let's say) their Second Wind plus a couple of hit dice, it's obvious that they were not critically injured, whether by ant bites or sword blows or anything else. They were just tired and sore! [/QUOTE]

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